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Thanks! I Just saw it online. What do you all think about it? I think it looks amazing!

Thanks for showing us the poster . . .

That's a fairly interesting image. What do the (Spanish?) words say about it?

I see a pyramid of scared and focussed people, possibly mobilizing against an unknown threat.

Anyone else . . . ?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for showing us the poster . . .

That's a fairly interesting image. What do the (Spanish?) words say about it?

I see a pyramid of scared and focussed people, possibly mobilizing against an unknown threat.

Anyone else . . . ?

The reactions in the talkback over at "bloody disgusting" is pretty positive so far.

The poster is mostly a composite. There are most of the main Viking characters poised in various battle stances and topped by Caviezel holding a sword... and a neat Moorwen silhouette in the clouds.

[dassad]

its cool but i'd like to have one or two actors names up there. also where's hellboy perlman? hopefully this version isn't the only one seen throughout the world. i'd like to see a variety and maybe a tag line as well.

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Originally Posted by dassad

its cool but i'd like to have one or two actors names up there. also where's hellboy perlman? hopefully this version isn't the only one seen throughout the world. i'd like to see a variety and maybe a tag line as well.

I've updated the front page with an update... Check out the supersized version here: http://outlander.solsector.net/images/outlander_xlg.jpg

You might need to increase the brightness but all the cast and crew names are down at the bottom It's possible the scan was just dark. Perlman is the one at the front with the Hammers.

[dassad]

that's perlman? it really doesn't look like him but the scan is dark so maybe so. also the supersized version you gave is smaller than the first one. maybe its my computer or my settings but i can't see the names. i'll keep trying.

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Originally Posted by dassad

that's perlman? it really doesn't look like him but the scan is dark so maybe so. also the supersized version you gave is smaller than the first one. maybe its my computer or my settings but i can't see the names. i'll keep trying.

you probably have to turn off automatic image resizing in your browser settings. Internet explorer probably defaults to it. It will make the picture fit whatever window you are looking at it in. Click on tools, internet options, advanced and then scroll down to multimedia.

[dassad]

thanks for the instructions as it worked this time. i still can't tell if its perlman but i'll take your word for it. also even by super enhancing it the names are barely visible. i'd like for the names to be in par with the director's name, perhaps at the very top of the poster. maybe the other versions will do something like that. its just nice to see some type of promotion and look forward to an official site or something. you know kind of like yours.

[Schnellart]

Love the poster!!! I hope this means a soon release of this film!

Amazing Poster...jim Looks Fabulous

I've been thinking about the poster for a day or so now . . .

I think it's wise to emphasize the "period piece" or "historical drama" flavor. Most movie-goers like that stuff. When I see John Hurt in a movie poster dressed up like its a thousand years ago I think "Oooooh, that looks interesting".

Then we see more Brits: semi-star Myles and proto-star Houston adds to the appeal.

Everyone recognizes JC on top, so that's good.

And then we see Ron Perlman . . . with hammers! He's looking half Quest For Fire and half Hellboy. This is promising.

Fjords, boats, LOTR . . . and a mysterious shadow looming behind . . . I'll go see it on the big screen.

PB

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I've been giving the poster some thought too. Overall it's a really great poster but there are a few issues that I think need addressed. First off I''ll begin by transcribing the Credit scrawl at the bottom of the sheet:

ASCENDANT PICTURES and VIRTUAL FILMS presents a VIP 4 production in association with RISING STAR "OUTLANDER" a film by HOWARD MCCAIN JIM CAVIEZEL SOPHIA MYLES JACK HUSTON with RON PERLMAN and JOHN HURT casting DEIRDRE BOWEN (CDC?) visual effects supervisor DAVID KUKLISH music by GEOFF ZANELLI

costume designer DEBRAH HANSEN editor DAVIV DODSON production designer DAVID HACKL director of photography PIERRE GILL (CSC?) co-producer IAN MACCAIG co-producer NEISHAW ALI executive producers CHRISTOPHER EBERTS KIA JAM executive producers DIRK BLACKMAN KAREN LOOP

executive producers VINCENT MARAVAL PHILIP ELWAY executive producer BARRIE OSBORNE executive producers ANDY GROSCH MARCES SHOEFER executive producers DON CARMODY produces by JOHN SCHIMMEL produced by CHRIS ROBERT written by DIRK BLACKMAN and HOWARD MCCAIN directed by HOWARD MCCAIN

That's followed by the logos for Ascendant Pictures, Wild Bunch, VIP Medienfonds, and Dolby Digital. A few things stand out other than just the insane number of useless executive producer credits... I'll adress that in a second.

First it's that a few of the names are misspelled. It's possible this is final but I highly doubt we are actually looking at a finished poster. It's almost like the logo's are placeholders and would explain the horrible use of the white VIP logo. Also to the very left is the creators ID (who apparently also did the poster for Wildbunch's 'Largo Winch') I would assume the various credits on the list are correct but the misspelling would seem to indicate an unfinished product. It's probably designed to be adaptable to add a date and more localized credits for the distributors and for various ratings info etc.

Now about those credits... THere are really only TWO actual producers listed there (which differs slightly from the IMDB list but IMDB reliability is a question for a different thread) The rest are executive and co-producers. Sometimes large lists of these kinds of credits isn't a good thing as it usually involves medling but to some degree it wasn't entirely unexpected for outlander, partly because of it's long period in pre-production. And there's a few names that seem to be on here more as a formality than anything. So I really don't think that this is a big issue here.

For example, one discrepency between the IMDB list and here is that here Barrie Osborne is listed as executive producer which I feel is more correct whereas the IMDB lists him as a full producer. Part of this has to do with the fact that Barrie did help shape the looks of the film somewhat.

Back when the movie was supposed to film in New Zealand with Karl urban Barrie was overseeing all the preproduction artwork, animatics and stuff done by ninth ray and WETA. This work along with patrick tatopolous' early concepts did a lot to shape the look and feel of Outlander as a whole but that's pretty much where Mr. Osborne's involvement ends to which Don Carmody seems to have stepped into the role when the production moved to Canada. Don did a lot of PR work and helped the production get set up here in Canada etc etc so that it could meet the financial limitations imposed by the budget.

But then there's credits like Eberts and Jam who were a little more hands off as executives at Ascendant. IAIN MCCAIG gets misspelled but deserves a credit as he oversaw the art departments work in preproduction too. But then there's a few names I recognize as belonging to some of the financing companies and Vincent Maraval is one of the head guys at Wildbunch which is handling the international sales for distribution rights.

Then you might have the Weinstein company add a few of it's own credits. Michelle Krumm is Executive Vice President and Co- head of Acquisitions and Co- Productions at The Weinstein Company. One report said she apparently was overseeing OUTLANDER "in a production capacity." These people perhaps were involved in some maner in getting outlander made and or released but contributed perhaps very little to the actual making of the film whether it be art work, set or costume building, acting, or effects work, whereas the actual Producers (of which there are two listed) are actually somewhat hands on.

So this gets me to one of my main peeves with the poster which is the big letters that say "from LORD OF THE RINGS producer Barrie Osborne." I understand selling the films epic aspects and the need to market to a broad audience, but I think you get the idea from the artwork itself anyway. ( I don't quite get the likening of the poster to the one for 300 that I've heard online other than perhaps the lighting of the scene) But if he really only gets an exec. producer credit than people are going to look at that like a cheap ploy - a cash-in if you will. There are some similarities in costume design and stuff between this and LOTR and Tolkien is said to have taken some inspiration from Beowulf and other Norse things too, but I don't think it quite works for this poster. But I'm also not sure the text of this image is final either.

Regarding the artwork itself I don't really have any complaints. Of note though is that I'm pretty sure it's a painting even if it was done on a computer or touched up afterward. The artists doesn't seem to quite get hands right.

[dassad]

is it common to include all these names for a promotional poster or is it something else entirely. it seems more like a informational piece with the hopes of selling it to more industry people and different markets for distribution purposes.

i agree with the lords of the ring reference for it feels out of place but i've seen it in other posters so it doesn't surprise me. i'm sure there will be multiple posters with different versions and i hope it would include some of the actors names. the best way to sell it is to let the audience know who's in it. it does look like a painting but its still appealing and peeks my interest even more.

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Originally Posted by dassad

is it common to include all these names for a promotional poster or is it something else entirely. it seems more like a informational piece with the hopes of selling it to more industry people and different markets for distribution purposes.

i agree with the lords of the ring reference for it feels out of place but i've seen it in other posters so it doesn't surprise me. i'm sure there will be multiple posters with different versions and i hope it would include some of the actors names. the best way to sell it is to let the audience know who's in it. it does look like a painting but its still appealing and peeks my interest even more.

YEah, It's typical to put all the credits on the poster somewhere. Almost every theatrical one-sheet has that at the bottom. They *should* be the same as the credits that would normally play at the start of a movie, and in that order too. Most DVDs will have it on the back of the case somewhere as well.

[Bandit LOAF]

( I don't quite get the likening of the poster to the one for 300 that I've heard online other than perhaps the lighting of the scene)

I'd say it has some 300-derived elements, probably more from the movie itself than from its poster -- the warriors huddled together in that fashion and the whole 'color drenched while still finely detailed' quality of the image (and especially the sky.)

I would assume the various credits on the list are correct but the misspelling would seem to indicate an unfinished product.

"I think I understand what military fame is: to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers." (Poor Chris Robert!)

[Schnellart]

Quoted from AD..."So this gets me to one of my main peeves with the poster which is the big letters that say "from LORD OF THE RINGS producer Barrie Osborne." I understand selling the films epic aspects and the need to market to a broad audience, but I think you get the idea from the artwork itself anyway. ( I don't quite get the likening of the poster to the one for 300 that I've heard online other than perhaps the lighting of the scene) But if he really only gets an exec. producer credit than people are going to look at that like a cheap ploy - a cash-in if you will. There are some similarities in costume design and stuff between this and LOTR and Tolkien is said to have taken some inspiration from Beowulf and other Norse things too, but I don't think it quite works for this poster. But I'm also not sure the text of this image is final either.

Regarding the artwork itself I don't really have any complaints. Of note though is that I'm pretty sure it's a painting even if it was done on a computer or touched up afterward. The artists doesn't seem to quite get hands right."

I have to agree...I think that the film would be so much better on its own merits without the reference to Lord of the Rings producer. The selling point should be the film itself and actors. If there is enough appeal (and I believe there is, just take a look at Jim Caviezel and John Hurt in that style of dress!) the film's attraction would be more or less the subject matter rather than having to bring 'Lotr' into it!

That being said I see quite a similarity to the colours from Lotr and also the way the 'Warrior with the Warhammer' on the bottom right looks to Gimli from Lotr too!
The last thing in reference to it being painted, I believe that to be true as well. The colour scheme being as it is with the detail and clouds appear more painted than computer. But I could be wrong. I also feel the hands appear a little poor and Jim's stance seems a little uncomfortable although he definately looks great! It is uncertain whether hes just trying to hold the sword up or not sure what he should do with it! I think i would have preferred him in a fighting stance!!!:-)

[amis]

I like this poster because of all the detail in it. It has the Vikings with the main stars in it, also the ships with the Moorwen in the silhouette. Most movie posters focus on 1 or 2 things to showcase, this one has it all.

[herger]

that's a great poster, but I wish they didn't boast so much about the fact that Barry Osborne is the producer... A movie that boasts about its producer rather than its actors or artistic team immediatly looks cheap.

[[DVB]THUNDER]

I have to disagree with one of the previous posters who stated that Perlman in the poster looks too much like Gimli. There may be a slight resemblance, however I assure you once you see Ron, big man, huge arms, swinging two large hammers and causing carnage, you won't even have a reference to Gimli in your mind. Knowing his actions from the movie and having seen LOTR many times, he is not a Gimli clone. VERY far from dwarf!

Another lady/gentleman mentioned that it appears as though Caviezel was merely supporting the sword in the air, and not a fighting stance. Unfortunately it will always be like that. He did not at anytime look comfortable holding his sword in his hand. I will say it for Jack Huston, and the others they looked more "natural/at home" holding their weapons.

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Originally Posted by [DVB]THUNDER

Another lady/gentleman mentioned that it appears as though Caviezel was merely supporting the sword in the air, and not a fighting stance. Unfortunately it will always be like that. He did not at anytime look comfortable holding his sword in his hand. I will say it for Jack Huston, and the others they looked more "natural/at home" holding their weapons.

Cool, were you an extra on set? or one of the crew?

We'll have to wait and see how it looks on film. The angle of the shots and editing can change the way stuff looks on screen considerably.

It seems a little odd that he would be uncomfortable with swords when he had to do a bunch of swordfighting in 'Count of Monte Cristo." However, fencing foils are handled quite differently than the sword in the poster so maybe that's were some of the unease comes from.

[[DVB]THUNDER]

I was both, an extra and crew. I would have to agree, that the style of weapon was not one that suited him. His actions in Monte Cristo and other roles were far different, but those as you mentioned are on a finished product. At times he seemed, not scared, but worried he might drop it and break it, like it was glass or antique. I am sure it will all work out on screen, at least I hope, for the sake of the movie

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Originally Posted by [DVB]THUNDER

I was both, an extra and crew. I would have to agree, that the style of weapon was not one that suited him. His actions in Monte Cristo and other roles were far different, but those as you mentioned are on a finished product. At times he seemed, not scared, but worried he might drop it and break it, like it was glass or antique. I am sure it will all work out on screen, at least I hope, for the sake of the movie

That might actually benefit the movie in the way you describe. His character might not actually be an acomplished swordsman to begin with. As an alien with futuristic technology he might be more adept at wielding a laser blaster than what looks like a big unwieldy sword. Though it's possible his advanced technology that he combines with viking tech might be that he forges some kind of lightweight alloy into a super sword, so it migh be supposed to look light... just a thought.

[[DVB]THUNDER]

Originally Posted by AD

That might actually benefit the movie in the way you describe. His character might not actually be an acomplished swordsman to begin with. As an alien with futuristic technology he might be more adept at wielding a laser blaster than what looks like a big unwieldy sword. Though it's possible his advanced technology that he combines with viking tech might be that he forges some kind of lightweight alloy into a super sword, so it migh be supposed to look light... just a thought.

Indeed I hadn't considered that avenue of approach for the movie, and I believe you might be correct, or at least correct in thinking that it may help and not hinder the production. We will have to wait with bait like breath to see!

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It just occured to me what the poster reminds me of...



If you mirror it, the composition is very similar. There's a lot more vikings in the pile than the four characters from Star Wars but The triangular shape is there along with the hero raising his sword/light saber at the top, along with the villain looming over in the background.

[dassad]

cool find. hadn't seen that poster in a long time. they are very similar.

[Schnellart]

just my views... Posted by Thunder...

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I have to disagree with one of the previous posters who stated that Perlman in the poster looks too much like Gimli. There may be a slight resemblance, however I assure you once you see Ron, big man, huge arms, swinging two large hammers and causing carnage, you won't even have a reference to Gimli in your mind. Knowing his actions from the movie and having seen LOTR many times, he is not a Gimli clone. VERY far from dwarf!

Another lady/gentleman mentioned that it appears as though Caviezel was merely supporting the sword in the air, and not a fighting stance. Unfortunately it will always be like that. He did not at anytime look comfortable holding his sword in his hand. I will say it for Jack Huston, and the others they looked more "natural/at home" holding their weapons.

Hi there,
Sorry for the delay in getting back with a reply but I only just noticed this response. Just a clarification....when I mentioned Gimli, I was really only referring to the warhammer in the Poster and the colouring and that in the shadows as a reference to LOtR. There is nooooo comparison to Gimli and Ron Perlman in height and stance by far!!!!! Oh man, absolutely none!!! Sorry if I was misunderstood, there is no comparison to man! Only the hammer and colouring as LOtR showed in their artwork! I guess as an artist myself I tend to look at colour and details and forgot to mention that the two men side by side would have absolutely no similarities!!!

I am the lady who also mentioned Jim's positiioning with the sword. It seems uncharacteristic to support a sword rather than hold it in defence. Jim Caviezel being a strong, lanky man with no lack in strength and self defence would be in a fighting stance right? It did make me wonder if they are really carrying his extraterrestrial side and having him more or less on the defence than attack? It will be really interesting to see!:-)

Thanks for the input!

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This is kind of neat with a few subtle differences:

I just found this site a short time ago and passed the word along to a couple of forums where the people would be interested knowing about this movie (all for the good by the way).

If you have not had experience with a broadsword, it would feel awkward at first. This has nothing to do with weight (they were not as heavy as most people thought) as most actors are taught "stage fighting" with different weapons. His stance is very "Heroic" and looks more to "showcase" the Hero's blade.

Nice Poster and positioning.

[Schnellart]

If you have not had experience with a broadsword, it would feel awkward at first. This has nothing to do with weight (they were not as heavy as most people thought) as most actors are taught "stage fighting" with different weapons. His stance is very "Heroic" and looks more to "showcase" the Hero's blade.

Thanks RunegameGoddess... that description makes alot of sense, being a broadsword. Thanks for the clarification.

[dassad]

I love the changes made from this poster. They included the names of the known actors on it and have some type of tagline on it. Also like the shiny sword.

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Originally Posted by dassad

I love the changes made from this poster. They included the names of the known actors on it and have some type of tagline on it. Also like the shiny sword.

The tag line is the same one from all the preproduction material: 'Sometimes the legends are true.'

Kind of interesting that they're specifically marketing the Beowulf connection. This was interestingly also happening in Locarno as well. There's a bit of an article I've been meaning to put up.

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If you haven't seen it already, you should all check out the gallery page I started to house all the various international flavors of the poster and potentially any print ads or even web ads they see for the film.

Have a look here: http://outlander.solsector.net/posters&ads.htm

So far, I have the english one along with Norwegian, Lithuanian, Latvian, and Russian versions.

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I've added a number of new Posters to the gallery as well as a few ads for the film.

Here's to of the latest that provide an interesting contrast:




It's interesting that the Spanish poster removes the Moorwen completely, and lightents the look of the sky. On the other hand, the Chinese poster - when compared to the original - actual enhances and makes stand out the image of the Moorwen in the background.

[THOMAS H.]

Originally Posted by AD

Thanks! I Just saw it online. What do you all think about it? I think it looks amazing!

WHERE CAN I BUY THESE POSTERS?
WHERE AND WHEN CAN I BUY THE DVD?
DOES ANYONE KNOW YET?

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Originally Posted by THOMAS H.

WHERE CAN I BUY THESE POSTERS?
WHERE AND WHEN CAN I BUY THE DVD?
DOES ANYONE KNOW YET?

Like I mentioned in the other thread, we unfortunately don't know yet. I wish we did. I promise to update the front page as soon as I find out though.

***also for anyone else reading this, I'm not specifically picking on this person, but please avoid posts in all-caps.***

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EDIT: For now I'm removing the links untill I find out if these guy are authorized to sell these, which may be reproductions.

So no word on DVDs but it looks like you can get the poster from [movie stuff store]. They have an 11x17 of the regular one and three sizes of the Spanish version which in my opinion is inferior, but it comes in an amazing 43x62... That's Awesome! But it also comes for the less awesome price of $59.99.

The 11x17s will cost you about $19.99. Check it out: Movie Stuff Store

What I don't know is availability. They mention that they will ship in a few days of ordering but don't seem to indicate if they actually have any stock.

you can pre-order the dvd at Blockbuster for November 18. $17.99 with $5.00 down.in Ga.
ps.sorry about al caps,on my last post.that wsa my first post ever.I just want this movie.

Originally Posted by THOMAS H

you can pre-order the dvd at Blockbuster for November 18. $17.99 with $5.00 down.in Ga.
ps.sorry about all caps,on my last post.that was my first post ever.I just want this movie.!!!!!

found it

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Originally Posted by THOMAS H

found it

A handful of sites have had *and removed* that date for the film. I would be very surprised if the DVD actually came out in two weeks. It's not outside the realm of possibility but considering there's no official announcement, or the trailer showing up on any other weinstein DVD release that I know of I seems unlikely.

Places will be more than happy to take your pre-order money though, even if the date keeps getting shoved back and back.

Even when the date first showed up, the Weinsteins said that there was no official date for the release. And we haven't heard anything to the contrary. The only thing different this time is I believe that the Weinsteins have an exclusivity deal with Blockbuster for releasing theire films (it applies only to rentals and not sales fortunately).... an idiotic notion if you ask me that shuts out a huge market of potential renters who live places not anywhere near a blockbuster.

[Bandit LOAF]

Places will be more than happy to take your pre-order money though, even if the date keeps getting shoved back and back.

I wouldn't worry too much about this -- no legitimate retailer (ie, Amazon, DD, etc.) will charge you for a DVD until your order is ready to ship.

The only thing different this time is I believe that the Weinsteins have an exclusivity deal with Blockbuster for releasing theire films (it applies only to rentals and not sales fortunately).... an idiotic notion if you ask me that shuts out a huge market of potential renters who live places not anywhere near a blockbuster.

It will mean lots and lots and lots of cheap almost-certainly-unwatched copies for purchase about six weeks from whenever the release is, though!

I have allready paid for this dvd.
blockbuster computers show it as coming out on 11-18-08.
why so negetive about this?

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Originally Posted by THOMAS H

I have allready paid for this dvd.
blockbuster computers show it as coming out on 11-18-08.
why so negetive about this?

I'm not negative about it. I just don't expect to see it come out on that date.

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I'm not meaning to be critical or negative but I don't think Thomas got his DVD... However, you should be able to check it out in theaters on Jan 23rd.

Anyway. There's some new versions of the posters in the promo materials gallery. One I need to add yet is the Portuguese version (from Brazil). It should be out in there on Feb 19th. Brazil seems to be the first time the movie has been given a significantly different title... Kind of reminds me of the the portuguese title for the Wing Commander movie (Wing Commander - A Batalha Final)

Outlander - Guerreiro Vs Predador (warrior vs predator)

It's not that great of resolution but here it is :

No i did not get my dvd!
I have never had this much trouble with a movie.
when blockbuster showed me it on there computer,I figured it had to be true.
the advertising people for this movie are some @#%$^.

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Originally Posted by Thomas h

No i did not get my dvd!
I have never had this much trouble with a movie.
when blockbuster showed me it on there computer,I figured it had to be true.
the advertising people for this movie are some @#%$^.

Yeah, the film is coming to select theaters in the US, and theaters in Canada (don't know how many here either yet really) on Jan 23rd. I hope they aren't hassling you with refunds or anything. Preferably they'll keep your preorder and you'll get it as soon as it's finally released on DVD after it's theatrical run, but there's no DVD date yet.

[ChrisReid]

Originally Posted by Thomas h

I have never had this much trouble with a movie.
when blockbuster showed me it on there computer,I figured it had to be true.

I think this is pretty typical. Release dates for lower profile games and movies shift constantly in the months prior to release.

Thank you.
For your help on this movie.
I hope I get to see it soon.
This movie looks great.

FINALLY.........I got to see OUTLANDER
the greatest movie about Vikings in a long time .
well worth the long wait. I seen it in Atlanta,Ga. last night.
I could not believe it was really playing here.this is a most see film for any one
that likes viking movies.This movie must go on dvd!!!!!!