Gettysburg-class Supercruiser

psych · 12-31-2003, 08:22

This thread is being started to publically unveil the latest work of the WC Saga Team. This one is more of an “easter egg” and a New Year’s gift from the Team then a ship that will be in the main WC campaign, but this ship was done to show you guys the attention to detail we’ve been applying to this mod.

The first is the Gettysburg-class supercruiser, a vessel that was in service around Wing Commander 1 – the year 2654. For all intents and purposes this ship is the class for the famous TCS Austin. If you didn’t know already, the Austin was only seen very vaguely in WC SM2 (and even then, they used an Exeter model as a placement), but it has been featured a lot in the WC scripts and the Freedom Flight novel.

Reason why we picked the ship type to be around supercruiser/battlecruiser type: the fact that Admiral Tolwyn uses it as his flagship is proof that this ship was a big command and control vessel, but the Freedom Flight novel referred to it as a cruiser. We could have just called it a heavy cruiser, but SM2 script has Jazz saying how the Austin was bigger then the Tiger’s Claw. So we made it a supercruiser to show how big it was, but kept the “cruiser” designation (instead of calling it a battleship or dreadnought) to make Freedom Flight happy.

Approximate length is around 750-ish meters and tonnage is around 50,000 tons. Fighter complement is around 20 fighters. Main battery consists is 4 triple-turrets (if you look closely at the Exeter and Snakeir blueprints, they have one each), and we’re leaning on heavy neutrons for the armament (these were mentioned in the Kilrathi Saga manual). There is also a cruise missile launcher and 10 laser turrets.

All credit goes to Michael “Lynx” Lechner for the design concept, the model, and the textures.

Chernikov · 12-31-2003, 09:45

Oh my my
Oh hell YES!

frankly, when the previous screens were released I was wondering if it would look like a stripped-down Claw. No more worries. That is the great "proud ship"!

Viper61 · 12-31-2003, 09:55

Over the past few months, we've seen this model take shape and we have all been pleased with the Exeter-type look to the design (take that SM2

). What I've failed to realize till now when I saw that last image was how much it also included a WCM-style "WWII battleship in space" supercruiser look, especially on the bow of the ship. A nice nod that gives a little more justification to the supercruiser title it has been given. As always Lynx, top notch!

C-ya

Cam · 12-31-2003, 11:56

That is one amazing model... I love it!

Speradon · 12-31-2003, 12:39

Wow, yeah. That's extremely well done. I love it!

Chernikov · 12-31-2003, 13:02

Okay, now that my brain has finished droolmode:

Would it be appropriate to call it a "battlecruiser", since it looks all kinds of fast and is obviously armed to the proverbial teeth, or is it armored to match the guns?

Do we have stats on the mythic Heavy Neutron Guns, and how do they relate to the green weaponry on the 'Claw?

Capn Johnny · 12-31-2003, 13:20

Very nice!

Delance · 12-31-2003, 13:28

That looks fantastic.

psych · 12-31-2003, 14:11

This thing is effectively a battlecruiser, but to be on the safe side (and in tune with WC1 ship classifications), we're calling it a supercruiser for now. As for armor, it should be about the same rating as the Tiger's Claw.

As for turreted neutron gun.

Service Date: 2645
Penetration: 70
Energy: 85 nJ
Range: 4000k
Refire Delay: .25 sec

"The capital-ship version of the neutron corresponds to the fighter version, although certain modifications produce a higher fire at the cost of range."

As for if they are on the Claw, I don't know. You'll have to ask LOAF.

LeHah · 12-31-2003, 14:48

That Is Goddamned F*cking Gorgeous.

Chernikov · 12-31-2003, 15:30

Damn, you would think they could squeeze more range than that out of the gun (4000 meters? Blah...)

Viper61 · 12-31-2003, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernikov

Damn, you would think they could squeeze more range than that out of the gun (4000 meters? Blah...)

4000km? Thats as far out as capship lasers engage you in WC3

.

C-ya

Bob McDob · 12-31-2003, 18:21

That paint scheme is great, especially on the side.

Bandit LOAF · 12-31-2003, 18:40

IIRC, we don't ever actually see the turreted lasers on capships in the games... they're the "fast" neutron guns found on the fighters (Broadsword/Sabre/Crossbow).

(They show up on a lot of novel-introduced ships, though.)

BlackJack2063 · 12-31-2003, 19:16

That is a thing of beauty!!!

I like how it looks like something from the WC1 era, you can tell it shares common origins with the Bengal, and the Exeter.

Expendable · 12-31-2003, 23:57

Very nice. Good work to all who created it.

Aries · 01-01-2004, 07:19

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dundradal · 01-01-2004, 13:38

Amazing looking model...I can't wait to get my hands on this mod...it looks awesome

gryphon · 01-01-2004, 16:27

This is a beauty. Seriously. Nice to see this model go all the way from concept to a real vessel!

HammerHead · 04-05-2004, 15:49

Well, I kind of late seeing this thread, but I just had to post something...

THIS IS ONE GOD DAMN EXCELLENT PIECE OF ART ! ! !

It is just AMAZING!!!!!!!

Iceblade · 04-05-2004, 18:23

"Sweet mother of God"

"Fine piece of work, sir"

"More kitty litter, [you are] hot today. HAHA!"

Moonsword · 04-06-2004, 03:19

I found it last week, but didn't want to dredge up an old thread. Since I didn't do it:

Awesome!

Iceblade · 04-06-2004, 15:19

Man, from the top it looks like a Bengal only Ten thousand times cooler and sweeter. YUMMMM!!!

Maj.Striker · 04-06-2004, 16:26

Aye, she's a thing of beauty indeed. This mod is looking mighty fine (still).

Dundradal · 04-06-2004, 20:10

one thing I noticed since this thread reappeared...just a quick question...is the flight deck fly-through our does it only have that rear entry? from the picts it's hard to tell if there is another way in...

12-31-2003, 08:22	#1
psych Destroyer of assclowns Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the surf zone Posts: 1,071	Gettysburg-class Supercruiser This thread is being started to publically unveil the latest work of the WC Saga Team. This one is more of an “easter egg” and a New Year’s gift from the Team then a ship that will be in the main WC campaign, but this ship was done to show you guys the attention to detail we’ve been applying to this mod. The first is the Gettysburg-class supercruiser, a vessel that was in service around Wing Commander 1 – the year 2654. For all intents and purposes this ship is the class for the famous TCS Austin. If you didn’t know already, the Austin was only seen very vaguely in WC SM2 (and even then, they used an Exeter model as a placement), but it has been featured a lot in the WC scripts and the Freedom Flight novel. Reason why we picked the ship type to be around supercruiser/battlecruiser type: the fact that Admiral Tolwyn uses it as his flagship is proof that this ship was a big command and control vessel, but the Freedom Flight novel referred to it as a cruiser. We could have just called it a heavy cruiser, but SM2 script has Jazz saying how the Austin was bigger then the Tiger’s Claw. So we made it a supercruiser to show how big it was, but kept the “cruiser” designation (instead of calling it a battleship or dreadnought) to make Freedom Flight happy. Approximate length is around 750-ish meters and tonnage is around 50,000 tons. Fighter complement is around 20 fighters. Main battery consists is 4 triple-turrets (if you look closely at the Exeter and Snakeir blueprints, they have one each), and we’re leaning on heavy neutrons for the armament (these were mentioned in the Kilrathi Saga manual). There is also a cruise missile launcher and 10 laser turrets. All credit goes to Michael “Lynx” Lechner for the design concept, the model, and the textures. __________________ Pain Train, coming through!

12-31-2003, 09:45	#2
Chernikov Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 837	Oh my my Oh hell YES! frankly, when the previous screens were released I was wondering if it would look like a stripped-down Claw. No more worries. That is the great "proud ship"! __________________ Missiles? Er, oh, yeah... forgot I had those, sorry.

12-31-2003, 09:55	#3
Viper61 Major General Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,909	Over the past few months, we've seen this model take shape and we have all been pleased with the Exeter-type look to the design (take that SM2 ). What I've failed to realize till now when I saw that last image was how much it also included a WCM-style "WWII battleship in space" supercruiser look, especially on the bow of the ship. A nice nod that gives a little more justification to the supercruiser title it has been given. As always Lynx, top notch! C-ya __________________ "You only live once, and the way I live, once is enough." - Frank Sinatra Last edited by Viper61; 12-31-2003 at 09:56.

12-31-2003, 13:02	#6
Chernikov Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 837	Okay, now that my brain has finished droolmode: Would it be appropriate to call it a "battlecruiser", since it looks all kinds of fast and is obviously armed to the proverbial teeth, or is it armored to match the guns? Do we have stats on the mythic Heavy Neutron Guns, and how do they relate to the green weaponry on the 'Claw? __________________ Missiles? Er, oh, yeah... forgot I had those, sorry.

12-31-2003, 13:28	#8
Delance Victory, you say? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 4,307	That looks fantastic. __________________ "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -- Chesterton

12-31-2003, 11:56	#4
Cam Captain Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 439	That is one amazing model... I love it!

12-31-2003, 12:39	#5
Speradon 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 154	Wow, yeah. That's extremely well done. I love it!

12-31-2003, 13:20	#7
Capn Johnny Cap'n Johnny Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 315	Very nice!

12-31-2003, 14:11	#9
psych Destroyer of assclowns Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the surf zone Posts: 1,071	This thing is effectively a battlecruiser, but to be on the safe side (and in tune with WC1 ship classifications), we're calling it a supercruiser for now. As for armor, it should be about the same rating as the Tiger's Claw. As for turreted neutron gun. Service Date: 2645 Penetration: 70 Energy: 85 nJ Range: 4000k Refire Delay: .25 sec "The capital-ship version of the neutron corresponds to the fighter version, although certain modifications produce a higher fire at the cost of range." As for if they are on the Claw, I don't know. You'll have to ask LOAF. __________________ Pain Train, coming through!

12-31-2003, 14:48	#10
LeHah Sanctioned A$$hole Join Date: May 2000 Location: Blackmane System Posts: 7,418	That Is Goddamned F*cking Gorgeous. __________________ Gleaming shell of an outworn lie; fable of Right divine -- You gained your crowns by heritage, but Blood was the price of mine. The throne that I won by blood and sweat, by Crom, I will not sell For promise of valleys filled with gold, or threat of the Halls of Hell!

12-31-2003, 15:30	#11
Chernikov Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 837	Damn, you would think they could squeeze more range than that out of the gun (4000 meters? Blah...) __________________ Missiles? Er, oh, yeah... forgot I had those, sorry.

12-31-2003, 18:21	#13
Bob McDob Mola mola Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Grassy Knizzle Posts: 3,135	That paint scheme is great, especially on the side. __________________ Aboard one destroyer, [Admiral Jacky Fisher] saw the sign "UT VENIANT OMNES" in gold letters mounted on the bridge. "What does that mean?" he asked. "Let 'em all come", replied the youthful lieutenant in command. Robert Massie If it's stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid.

12-31-2003, 18:40	#14
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 25,571	IIRC, we don't ever actually see the turreted lasers on capships in the games... they're the "fast" neutron guns found on the fighters (Broadsword/Sabre/Crossbow). (They show up on a lot of novel-introduced ships, though.) __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

12-31-2003, 19:16	#15
BlackJack2063 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 208	That is a thing of beauty!!! I like how it looks like something from the WC1 era, you can tell it shares common origins with the Bengal, and the Exeter. __________________ It is not enough that I succeed, all of my enemies must fail. A sucking chest wound is natures way of telling you to slow down!

12-31-2003, 23:57	#16
Expendable 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Gaddenspy County Posts: 236	Very nice. Good work to all who created it. __________________ Expendable. When you absolutely, positively, need it destroyed overnight. And if you choose Expendable, it proves that you're too cheap to pay for any extraction, you cruel fiend.

01-01-2004, 07:19	#17
Aries Colonel Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,148	Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others. - Machiavelli I came, I saw, I conquered. -Julius Ceaser I hate stupid people. -Me

01-01-2004, 13:38	#18
Dundradal TCS Tarawa (CVE-8) "Plank Owner" Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Confederate Archives, Confed HQ, Sol System Posts: 5,033	Amazing looking model...I can't wait to get my hands on this mod...it looks awesome __________________ "To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul. Go." - Final Terminal Message Marathon Infinity

01-01-2004, 16:27	#19
gryphon Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 761	This is a beauty. Seriously. Nice to see this model go all the way from concept to a real vessel! __________________ "That's about the most eloquent post I've seen here on any subject, ever." - Preacher Gryphon, The Artist Formerly Known As Mr. Chubbs

04-05-2004, 15:49	#20
HammerHead Major Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 518	Well, I kind of late seeing this thread, but I just had to post something... THIS IS ONE GOD DAMN EXCELLENT PIECE OF ART ! ! ! It is just AMAZING!!!!!!! __________________ "We're in the middle of 'deep space', just on the corner of 'No' and 'Where'..." Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, Firefly class. Last edited by HammerHead; 04-05-2004 at 15:51.

04-05-2004, 18:23	#21
Iceblade Lieutenant General Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mobile, AL, USA Posts: 1,641	"Sweet mother of God" "Fine piece of work, sir" "More kitty litter, [you are] hot today. HAHA!" __________________ Ultima 9: Forgotten World Bringing you a better Ultima 9 experience http://www.forgottenworld.de/ Last edited by Iceblade; 04-05-2004 at 18:24. Reason: more quotes to come

04-06-2004, 03:19	#22
Moonsword Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 787	I found it last week, but didn't want to dredge up an old thread. Since I didn't do it: Awesome!

04-06-2004, 15:19	#23
Iceblade Lieutenant General Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mobile, AL, USA Posts: 1,641	Man, from the top it looks like a Bengal only Ten thousand times cooler and sweeter. YUMMMM!!! __________________ Ultima 9: Forgotten World Bringing you a better Ultima 9 experience http://www.forgottenworld.de/

04-06-2004, 16:26	#24
Maj.Striker Swabbie Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2,067	Aye, she's a thing of beauty indeed. This mod is looking mighty fine (still).

04-06-2004, 20:10	#25
Dundradal TCS Tarawa (CVE-8) "Plank Owner" Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Confederate Archives, Confed HQ, Sol System Posts: 5,033	one thing I noticed since this thread reappeared...just a quick question...is the flight deck fly-through our does it only have that rear entry? from the picts it's hard to tell if there is another way in... __________________ "To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul. Go." - Final Terminal Message Marathon Infinity

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