Wing Commander Music Video

TomGaines · 04-05-2005, 14:05

The indirect challenge in the CIC News to create some more music videos for the Wing Commander fandom induced me to try my hand at this. It's my first time ever creating a music video.
It's to the song "Song 2" by Blur and it's entirely based on Wing Commander 4 video clips.

Download

What do you think?

Hopefully my trafficlimit is sufficient (5gig/month), as I have also a few other short videos up. If somebody is willing to co-host my music video just let me know where.

ChrisReid · 04-05-2005, 14:25

Looks great. Some of the videos we post do a couple dozen gigs, so we can mirror it before we mention it on the front page.

gevatter Lars · 04-05-2005, 14:27

Interesting...don't know why but I like it...except for one thing...these spinning and clipping transitions. I prefer a hard cut, crossover or dissolve transitions over spinning pictures.

The timing is also nice for the first try...reminds me of my first music video..was an AMV.
I think its hard to find fitting scenes for a music video and I liked the beginning with Tolwyn a lot. It gives the beginning somekind of story told through the music.
Makes him look very nervouse and ready for some action ^_^

To sad I haven't got any time for doing something like that at the moment but I am inside my exams weeks.

BradMick · 04-05-2005, 15:07

really great work, the points where the you matched up the lyrics with images was particularly masterful

really great work!

my only crit, you had to pick evanescence (sp)

KrisV · 04-05-2005, 15:27

Wrong thread, Brad.

BradMick · 04-05-2005, 15:28

hahahah....oops, thanks chris

sorry

ChrisReid · 04-05-2005, 15:45

Wrong Chris, Brad.

Marc · 04-05-2005, 15:46

very cool. yeah-yeah!

BradMick · 04-05-2005, 17:43

damnit...i just can't win today!!

heheheh

Maj.Striker · 04-05-2005, 19:11

Hey that's awesome I really liked that. Good post editing work...Premiere? Very nice job, I like the music too...who does that song?

TomGaines · 04-05-2005, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisReid

Looks great. Some of the videos we post do a couple dozen gigs, so we can mirror it before we mention it on the front page.

Thanks. That would be great!

TomGaines · 04-05-2005, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maj.Striker

Hey that's awesome I really liked that. Good post editing work...Premiere? Very nice job, I like the music too...who does that song?

I used Womble MPEG Video Wizard. The song is by Blur.

Arrow · 04-05-2005, 23:53

very very nice! hope to see more soon!

again: ULTRA MEGA COOL!

AD · 04-06-2005, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gevatter Lars

Interesting...don't know why but I like it...except for one thing...these spinning and clipping transitions. I prefer a hard cut, crossover or dissolve transitions over spinning pictures.

I liked the way you tried to put a surge in action (explosions) where there was a surge in the music. However I am going to have to second those sentiments about the transitions... especialy the spining box ones. They detract to much attention from the visuals by drawing attention to themselves rather than adding punch to an otherwise good shift.

TomGaines · 04-06-2005, 12:26

Thanks for your feedbacks. I have taken your advices and have slightly re-edited my video. One of the old transistions I didn't want to lose, but the rest I have replaced.
Here the new version. Enjoy.

BrynS · 04-06-2005, 19:09

Nice work!

I agree with AD's comment on the effectiveness of your visual edit aligning well with the various "beats" and inflection points in the audio track.

Cheers,

BrynS

Khavik · 04-07-2005, 03:52

The second version of this music video was the first such Wing Commander music video I've ever seen. I didn't even realize anyone was making them. (Hrm. Can anyone say 'nube'?) I LIKE! Where do I go for /more/!

I couldn't download the first version, but the second version has me addicted. That enough of a review? What do you give that for a rating? Two thumbs and a syringe?

gevatter Lars · 04-07-2005, 11:44

The second edition us much better with these smooth transitions....I like it.

Plywood Fiend · 04-07-2005, 12:33

That was cool, you tie the mood of the video to the mood of the song pieces well. Someone has doubtlesly phrased that better in a previous post, but you know what i mean.

I think that final transition works well aswell.

TopGun · 04-07-2005, 12:35

Just watched the vid and it was GREAT, Song 2 is one of my fav Blur songs anyway, but this makes it even better. Cheers

TomGaines · 04-07-2005, 13:10

Thank you guys for the great feedback.

TopGun · 04-07-2005, 13:16

it's us who should be thanking you

Maj.Striker · 04-07-2005, 17:57

Yeah, I keep pulling that up and replaying it on my pc, that's one fantastic video job. (Doesn't hurt that I love the song

).

TomGaines · 04-08-2005, 13:50

I just threw together a further short music video. Nothing fancy. It's Wing Commander 4 to the theme of Babylon 5's third season opening sequence by Christopher Franke. Babylon 5 always reminded me of Wing Commander.

Actually I became first hooked on Babylon 5 during it's third season (the break from Earth government storyline), because it's similarities to Wing Commander 4.

So, without further ado... the video. Enjoy!

AD · 04-08-2005, 14:07

Hey Tom..

The vobs are all originaly 640x480. I think you need to check that your editing program isn't reencoding it at 720x480 like mine will if I let it choose. Your people look streched.

otherwise not bad.

TomGaines · 04-08-2005, 14:26

Thanks.
This time for encoding as divx I cropped the image, so I wouldn't waste the bitrate for the transit between the black bars and the picture. Did you watch it in fullscreen mode? Did you have the same problem with my other vids? Because other than that I didn't do anything different. Has anyone else the same problem, because on my pc they look fine.

AD · 04-08-2005, 15:08

hmm, might have just been me. I just watched it again and it seemed fine.

Edit: I never noticed it the first time. Was your intention to be able to hear the dialogue? Because if so you need to adjust the mix so that it is more audible, I could hardly hear it except for the execution announcement. The music drowns it out.

AD · 04-09-2005, 00:52

Here's what I get for saying things without double checking! I went back and checked, and the vobs are actually 704x480. I have no Idea why it looked stretched the first time. The wierd thing is when I try and encode at that ratio then the stuff I make looks stretched.

And I like your video better everytime I watch it. Good job.

TomGaines · 04-09-2005, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by AD

Was your intention to be able to hear the dialogue? Because if so you need to adjust the mix so that it is more audible, I could hardly hear it except for the execution announcement. The music drowns it out.

Yes, it was intentional. At the execution announcement I raised the volume and at the accusations I kept it low. Is it really hard to understand them at all? If yes, I will adjust it slightly. I wanted to keep the music in the foreground at that point and only at the end the announcement louder for the punch.

AD · 04-09-2005, 01:41

It depends on how loud I play it. If I dont want to wake anyone else, I cant hear it much. I can tell they're there, but it might be good slightly louder... even the announcement could be louder in relation to the volume of the music from where you have it.

Pedro · 04-09-2005, 01:50

I agree, infact those are powerfull lines if anything they should be louder than the music.

Plywood Fiend · 04-09-2005, 03:39

That was cool, the dialogue wasn't inaudible but could stand to be a bit louder. The music works well i think.

TomGaines · 04-09-2005, 04:20

I have adjusted the audio. If you're interested, just download the vid again.

vindicator · 04-09-2005, 05:03

I think you should be proud. That's some good work. Your bravery to subject your work to critcism is also a sign you'll do well. Keep working on it. Do you mind if I make a musical request?

-Rance-

TomGaines · 04-09-2005, 08:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by vindicator

Do you mind if I make a musical request?

What do you have mind? I will certainly take requests into consideration. I'm currently on the search for an appropriate song for Wing Commander 3. Any suggestions?

AD · 04-09-2005, 08:09

Tom, that was much better. I hope you are still happy with it though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vindicator

Do you mind if I make a musical request?

Make your suggestion, and I'll think about it.

vindicator · 04-09-2005, 11:36

Well, back in the early days, I didn't have an affection for the old style orchastrations. I used to play whiskey in the jar by metallica alot. I know it's kind of old school, but I always wanted that song in a WC video, maybe you could use it if you did privateer videos though.

-Rance-

04-05-2005, 14:05	#1
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	Wing Commander Music Video The indirect challenge in the CIC News to create some more music videos for the Wing Commander fandom induced me to try my hand at this. It's my first time ever creating a music video. It's to the song "Song 2" by Blur and it's entirely based on Wing Commander 4 video clips. Download What do you think? Hopefully my trafficlimit is sufficient (5gig/month), as I have also a few other short videos up. If somebody is willing to co-host my music video just let me know where.

04-05-2005, 14:27	#3
gevatter Lars Colonel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamburg Germany Posts: 1,206	Interesting...don't know why but I like it...except for one thing...these spinning and clipping transitions. I prefer a hard cut, crossover or dissolve transitions over spinning pictures. The timing is also nice for the first try...reminds me of my first music video..was an AMV. I think its hard to find fitting scenes for a music video and I liked the beginning with Tolwyn a lot. It gives the beginning somekind of story told through the music. Makes him look very nervouse and ready for some action ^_^ To sad I haven't got any time for doing something like that at the moment but I am inside my exams weeks. __________________ I give suggar in my coffee, and the coffee just gets totaly depressed, because I can't accept him, as he is.

04-05-2005, 15:27	#5
KrisV Space Marshal Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: The Reid System Posts: 3,210	Wrong thread, Brad. __________________ The Wing Commander CIC Forum Rules

04-05-2005, 15:46	#8
Marc Captain Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 3rd Rock Posts: 489	very cool. yeah-yeah! __________________ "Untill you realise that someday you will die, you are useless"_fightclub

04-06-2005, 19:09	#16
BrynS Mr Kat says... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: TCS Victory Posts: 481	Nice work! I agree with AD's comment on the effectiveness of your visual edit aligning well with the various "beats" and inflection points in the audio track. Cheers, BrynS __________________ "Your work is both good and original. Unfortunately the part that is good is not original and the part that is original is not good." - Samuel Johnson

04-05-2005, 14:25	#2
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	Looks great. Some of the videos we post do a couple dozen gigs, so we can mirror it before we mention it on the front page.

04-05-2005, 15:07	#4
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 973	really great work, the points where the you matched up the lyrics with images was particularly masterful really great work! my only crit, you had to pick evanescence (sp)

04-05-2005, 15:28	#6
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 973	hahahah....oops, thanks chris sorry

04-05-2005, 15:45	#7
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	Wrong Chris, Brad.

04-05-2005, 17:43	#9
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 973	damnit...i just can't win today!! heheheh

04-05-2005, 19:11	#10
Maj.Striker Swabbie Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2,067	Hey that's awesome I really liked that. Good post editing work...Premiere? Very nice job, I like the music too...who does that song?

04-05-2005, 23:53	#13
Arrow Cadet Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 18	very very nice! hope to see more soon! again: ULTRA MEGA COOL!

04-06-2005, 12:26	#15
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	Thanks for your feedbacks. I have taken your advices and have slightly re-edited my video. One of the old transistions I didn't want to lose, but the rest I have replaced. Here the new version. Enjoy.

04-07-2005, 03:52	#17
Khavik Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wherever Uncle Sam tells me to. Posts: 13	The second version of this music video was the first such Wing Commander music video I've ever seen. I didn't even realize anyone was making them. (Hrm. Can anyone say 'nube'?) I LIKE! Where do I go for /more/! I couldn't download the first version, but the second version has me addicted. That enough of a review? What do you give that for a rating? Two thumbs and a syringe?

04-07-2005, 11:44	#18
gevatter Lars Colonel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamburg Germany Posts: 1,206	The second edition us much better with these smooth transitions....I like it. __________________ I give suggar in my coffee, and the coffee just gets totaly depressed, because I can't accept him, as he is.

04-07-2005, 12:33	#19
Plywood Fiend 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 213	That was cool, you tie the mood of the video to the mood of the song pieces well. Someone has doubtlesly phrased that better in a previous post, but you know what i mean. I think that final transition works well aswell. __________________ A pox on the eye! I'd pluck it out if I knew where it was.

04-07-2005, 12:35	#20
TopGun Vampire Ace Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 3,370	Just watched the vid and it was GREAT, Song 2 is one of my fav Blur songs anyway, but this makes it even better. Cheers __________________ Wing Commander, Alpha Wing, Wolfpack Squadron, TCS William Eisen

04-07-2005, 13:10	#21
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	Thank you guys for the great feedback.

04-07-2005, 13:16	#22
TopGun Vampire Ace Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 3,370	it's us who should be thanking you __________________ Wing Commander, Alpha Wing, Wolfpack Squadron, TCS William Eisen

04-07-2005, 17:57	#23
Maj.Striker Swabbie Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2,067	Yeah, I keep pulling that up and replaying it on my pc, that's one fantastic video job. (Doesn't hurt that I love the song ).

04-08-2005, 13:50	#24
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	I just threw together a further short music video. Nothing fancy. It's Wing Commander 4 to the theme of Babylon 5's third season opening sequence by Christopher Franke. Babylon 5 always reminded me of Wing Commander. Actually I became first hooked on Babylon 5 during it's third season (the break from Earth government storyline), because it's similarities to Wing Commander 4. So, without further ado... the video. Enjoy!

04-08-2005, 14:07	#25
AD Finder of things, Doer of stuff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,776	Hey Tom.. The vobs are all originaly 640x480. I think you need to check that your editing program isn't reencoding it at 720x480 like mine will if I let it choose. Your people look streched. otherwise not bad.

04-08-2005, 14:26	#26
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	Thanks. This time for encoding as divx I cropped the image, so I wouldn't waste the bitrate for the transit between the black bars and the picture. Did you watch it in fullscreen mode? Did you have the same problem with my other vids? Because other than that I didn't do anything different. Has anyone else the same problem, because on my pc they look fine.

04-08-2005, 15:08	#27
AD Finder of things, Doer of stuff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,776	hmm, might have just been me. I just watched it again and it seemed fine. Edit: I never noticed it the first time. Was your intention to be able to hear the dialogue? Because if so you need to adjust the mix so that it is more audible, I could hardly hear it except for the execution announcement. The music drowns it out. Last edited by AD; 04-08-2005 at 16:00.

04-09-2005, 00:52	#28
AD Finder of things, Doer of stuff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,776	Here's what I get for saying things without double checking! I went back and checked, and the vobs are actually 704x480. I have no Idea why it looked stretched the first time. The wierd thing is when I try and encode at that ratio then the stuff I make looks stretched. And I like your video better everytime I watch it. Good job. Last edited by AD; 04-09-2005 at 01:05.

04-09-2005, 01:41	#30
AD Finder of things, Doer of stuff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,776	It depends on how loud I play it. If I dont want to wake anyone else, I cant hear it much. I can tell they're there, but it might be good slightly louder... even the announcement could be louder in relation to the volume of the music from where you have it.

04-09-2005, 01:50	#31
Pedro Swabbie Banned Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: England Posts: 1,346	I agree, infact those are powerfull lines if anything they should be louder than the music.

04-09-2005, 03:39	#32
Plywood Fiend 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 213	That was cool, the dialogue wasn't inaudible but could stand to be a bit louder. The music works well i think. __________________ A pox on the eye! I'd pluck it out if I knew where it was.

04-09-2005, 04:20	#33
TomGaines Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 59	I have adjusted the audio. If you're interested, just download the vid again.

04-09-2005, 05:03	#34
vindicator Captain Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 385	I think you should be proud. That's some good work. Your bravery to subject your work to critcism is also a sign you'll do well. Keep working on it. Do you mind if I make a musical request? -Rance- __________________ Never take life too seriously. Not everything is life or death and never miss a chance to make someone laugh.

04-09-2005, 11:36	#37
vindicator Captain Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 385	Well, back in the early days, I didn't have an affection for the old style orchastrations. I used to play whiskey in the jar by metallica alot. I know it's kind of old school, but I always wanted that song in a WC video, maybe you could use it if you did privateer videos though. -Rance- __________________ Never take life too seriously. Not everything is life or death and never miss a chance to make someone laugh.

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