Two Hats Are Better Than One (January 29, 2008)

ChrisReid · 01-28-2008, 15:00

McGruff has a neat creation to show off today. He's ordered a custom crew cap for the TCS Princeton, a Concordia class carrier featured in Wing Commander 4. It was inspired by the TCS Eisen hats the CIC made a few years back. I think they turned out great. You can see both designs side-by-side below

High Res

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Original update published on January 29, 2008

Drizzt Do Urden · 01-29-2008, 16:20

Are there any plans to sell this type of hat, like the Eisen hat?

LeHah · 01-29-2008, 16:43

Neat. It looks nice on the black fabric.

Haliwali · 01-29-2008, 16:56

I'd love to by both, but sadly I have no job right now. And I need to save up for lasik.

JasonRocZ · 01-30-2008, 04:29

That's awesome!!

Dundradal · 01-30-2008, 04:33

I'd be interested in one of these for the Tarawa.

Collect them all!

Bandit LOAF · 01-30-2008, 04:37

There's actually a third missing link hat -- the guys at Digital Anvil did a similar CSS Tiger's Claw hat to give out to the crews which worked on the Wing Commander movie.

Haliwali · 01-30-2008, 05:32

And where might we hunt this elusive prey?

LeHah · 01-30-2008, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Haliwali

And where might we hunt this elusive prey?

As it stands, I believe only LOAF and myself have the CSS Tiger Claw hats. Mine is from the Visual Effects Team and I believe LOAF has one from another department?

http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/3651

ChrisReid · 01-30-2008, 09:35

We have a newer picture at http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/6976

I forgot all about that one. I should take a picture with all three.

LeHah · 01-30-2008, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisReid

We have a newer picture at http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/6976

Yeah, I went looking for that post - but when I searched "hats" I got 2700 hits or something.

Bandit LOAF · 01-30-2008, 12:12

Hats what you get!

Shipgate · 01-30-2008, 13:35

Neat! I gotta get me one of those. People often ask me when I wear my Eisen hat if I was in the Navy.

Haliwali · 01-30-2008, 13:59

When I was planning on picking up some of the CIC gear my dad said if I got that hat it may screw with someone in the Navy. "Which ship was THAT?"

McGruff · 01-30-2008, 19:23

I was wearing the Eisen one and someone asked me if I served on a submarine. I told him it was a new type of carrier.

Here's the jpeg image for the Princeton hat if anyone wants to use it at a local embroidery shop.

Drizzt Do Urden · 01-31-2008, 09:01

Where did he order the hat? I want one too!

Kevin Caccamo · 02-03-2008, 10:03

Where did the princeton appear in WC4?

ChrisReid · 02-03-2008, 10:34

It's the big carrier you can capture in Speradon.

Kevin Caccamo · 02-03-2008, 10:50

Hmmm... Kind of thought so. Do I have to destroy all it's turrets or do I just have to leech it? I had quite a hard time with that mission.

ChrisReid · 02-03-2008, 17:03

Leeching doesn't do anything in this case. The standard procedure is to remove the turrets, pop the engines and damage it 50%.

Haliwali · 04-08-2008, 06:48

Well, I sort of ripped off the Concordia design and replaced the name with the Wellington, a Ranger class (I don't think anyone will notice

) Do any of you know a good site to make a hat like this?

Bandit LOAF · 04-08-2008, 06:56

*Yorktown* class

Haliwali · 04-08-2008, 07:55

My bad.

Haliwali · 04-08-2008, 08:56

Dear God, they raped me on those price quotes. The cheapest I found was for 35$. And that's just the machine, not the hat itself. McGruff, where you get yours on the Internet? Maybe I could just take that design with different text.

McGruff · 04-08-2008, 19:27

If you happen to find a quality embroidery site for projects like this, please let me know. I wasn't satisfied with the finished product I got when inspected closely. We should probably be asking LOAF where the Eisen hats were made, the stitching on them is far superior.

I would be just fine paying $35 + the cost of a hat if it was going to be a quality job, sounds like a small price to pay for a unique Wing Commander item. Of course if several of us got together on this, the price per person would be much lower because setup is usually the biggest part of the cost. If one or more other people want to do it, I'm in.

Haliwali · 04-08-2008, 19:53

Hey, if we could set something up like that, it'd be great. Talk to you guys tomorrow, got to get ready for my SEAL test.

McGruff · 04-08-2008, 21:30

If there's anything I can do to help...........

ChrisReid · 04-13-2008, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGruff

If you happen to find a quality embroidery site for projects like this, please let me know. I wasn't satisfied with the finished product I got when inspected closely. We should probably be asking LOAF where the Eisen hats were made, the stitching on them is far superior.

I would be just fine paying $35 + the cost of a hat if it was going to be a quality job, sounds like a small price to pay for a unique Wing Commander item. Of course if several of us got together on this, the price per person would be much lower because setup is usually the biggest part of the cost. If one or more other people want to do it, I'm in.

The Eisen hats were ordered from http://www.greekgear.com/unchcap.html several years ago. In order to get the price down to something reasonable for people to buy, Jibbo and I ordered about a hundred. They've been pretty popular, and we've given lots away at promotional events, so the supply is actually starting to dwindle.

McGruff · 04-14-2008, 17:49

I see they have a minimum order quantity of 12 hats, at $17.75 each. If anyone else wants to go in with me, I'm good for the price of two of them.

McGruff · 05-04-2008, 16:02

Nobody?

ChrisReid · 05-04-2008, 18:26

If somebody designs something really cool and takes the time to work out the logistics, I'm in.

McGruff · 05-04-2008, 20:01

I was thinking we should do the Princeton hat, or another documented Yorktown/Concordia class using Greekgear's superior embroidery if we can get some people to go in on it. I would volunteer to handle the actual order and to mail out the individual hats afterward. The price per person would be $17.75 + probably less than $2 shipping per person + maybe $5 each for me to mail them out. There doesn't seem to be a separate design setup charge that I see, so total cost per person would probably be around 25 bucks.

I'm good for two, and if Chris gets one, we need to account for 9 more hats.

Haliwali · 05-05-2008, 05:59

As soon as there's an official design, I'm in. As for that may I humbly suggest (with a slight hint of fanboyism) using the Wellington? I've got a pic of a design around here somewhere...

Bandit LOAF · 05-05-2008, 06:47

I would buy a well done canonical ship -- so, the Princeton but not the Wellington.

I might suggest the Tarawa (CVE-7), as we could send one hat to Dr. Forstchen as a gift.

Deadman_ny · 05-05-2008, 15:59

I'm down for a hat. Any pics of a runup? You take paypal? If not please send me mailing address for money order. The Tarawa would be cool to have on a hat. What are the base colors going to be for the hat and the embroidering? Is there a choice or just one color for entire order.

My mother does stuff like that for birthdays, holidays and the gambit of grandmother things. Pictures of the kids on coffee mugs, bibs, T-shirts, ect. Think it's really cool and endearing.

Haliwali · 05-05-2008, 16:27

As long as we're still picking out a name, might as well be something we've flown off ourselves. So, Tiger's Claw. Concordia, Victory, Intrepid, Midway, or Cerberus.

McGruff · 05-05-2008, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

I would buy a well done canonical ship -- so, the Princeton but not the Wellington. I might suggest the Tarawa (CVE-7)

Same here, two votes for Tarawa, though the Princeton artwork is the only version I can offer because my buddy who made it is too busy with his day job to do another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadman_ny

You take paypal? If not please send me mailing address for money order.

If you all decided that I would place the order, either would be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

we could send one hat to Dr. Forstchen as a gift.

Maybe you can, he's still on my shitlist until he does something about the state of Lost Regiment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadman_ny

What are the base colors going to be for the hat and the embroidering?

I like the existing Princeton color scheme - black hat, silver/gray ship, yellow/gold lettering.

Haliwali · 05-05-2008, 17:29

Navy would look better for a background I think. I think I have a better idea for collecting votes though.

McGruff · 05-05-2008, 17:32

Black would look like a real one......

Bandit LOAF · 05-06-2008, 06:50

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Black would look like a real one......

Is that a real one? I have several that are right off of ships and they're all a very dark blue (darker than the Eisen hats, but definately still blue).

Quote:

Maybe you can, he's still on my shitlist until he does something about the state of Lost Regiment.

Yeah, I'd be willing to do that. So, put me down for two if we go with the Tarawa. The occasional kindness is a good way to stay in touch with the people who made our universe.

Edit: Woweee, the board software must have been updated; I have a little yellow-and-red "add infraction" button under every name. Who can I test this on?

KrisV · 05-06-2008, 07:12

That's odd. I don't see it. They added that feature years ago and we have it disabled.

Bandit LOAF · 05-06-2008, 07:14

Hmm, it's gone now. But it was there for a minute.

There's something strange about my account in general; I can log in to the backend and view user settings... but there's no button to save changes.

LeHah · 05-06-2008, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

I might suggest the Tarawa (CVE-7), as we could send one hat to Dr. Forstchen as a gift.

You bet your buttons I'd buy a Tarawa hat.

Haliwali · 05-06-2008, 08:19

I've started a poll, so hop over there and vote.

Max Gene · 05-06-2008, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

Woweee, the board software must have been updated; I have a little yellow-and-red "add infraction" button under every name. Who can I test this on?

I wouldn't particularly mind, if you do it in a week- I've got lots of schoolwork, followed by a week without internet during a senior trip. That, and I wanna see what it does. Wednesday the 14th work for you?

McGruff · 05-06-2008, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

Is that a real one?

Not really sure. I just looked in Google Images for examples and found mostly black ones, with a few blue. Personally I think the black looks much more striking.

OK, so that's
Me - 2
LOAF - 2
LeHah - 1
Chris - 1
Deadman ny - 1
Haliwali - 1

Only four more hats and it's a go if someone can provide Tarawa artwork.

Jason_Ryock · 05-07-2008, 09:19

I'm good for one.

Bandit LOAF · 05-07-2008, 09:21

Quote:

Not really sure. I just looked in Google Images for examples and found mostly black ones, with a few blue. Personally I think the black looks much more striking.

I think it might just be the photography -- I think the three images you attached are all actually a dark Navy blue.

Capn Johnny · 05-07-2008, 09:47

I like hats..

McGruff · 05-07-2008, 15:58

Enough to buy one?

01-28-2008, 15:00	#1
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	Two Hats Are Better Than One (January 29, 2008) McGruff has a neat creation to show off today. He's ordered a custom crew cap for the TCS Princeton, a Concordia class carrier featured in Wing Commander 4. It was inspired by the TCS Eisen hats the CIC made a few years back. I think they turned out great. You can see both designs side-by-side below High Res -- Original update published on January 29, 2008

01-29-2008, 16:43	#3
LeHah Sanctioned A$$hole Join Date: May 2000 Location: Blackmane System Posts: 7,418	Neat. It looks nice on the black fabric. __________________ Gleaming shell of an outworn lie; fable of Right divine -- You gained your crowns by heritage, but Blood was the price of mine. The throne that I won by blood and sweat, by Crom, I will not sell For promise of valleys filled with gold, or threat of the Halls of Hell!

01-29-2008, 16:56	#4
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	I'd love to by both, but sadly I have no job right now. And I need to save up for lasik. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

01-30-2008, 04:33	#6
Dundradal TCS Tarawa (CVE-8) "Plank Owner" Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Confederate Archives, Confed HQ, Sol System Posts: 5,033	I'd be interested in one of these for the Tarawa. Collect them all! __________________ "To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul. Go." - Final Terminal Message Marathon Infinity

01-30-2008, 04:37	#7
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 25,571	There's actually a third missing link hat -- the guys at Digital Anvil did a similar CSS Tiger's Claw hat to give out to the crews which worked on the Wing Commander movie. __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

01-29-2008, 16:20	#2
Drizzt Do Urden Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 443	Are there any plans to sell this type of hat, like the Eisen hat?

01-30-2008, 04:29	#5
JasonRocZ Brigadier General Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Albany NY Posts: 1,272	That's awesome!!

01-30-2008, 05:32	#8
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	And where might we hunt this elusive prey? __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

01-30-2008, 09:35	#10
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	We have a newer picture at http://www.wcnews.com/news/update/6976 I forgot all about that one. I should take a picture with all three.

01-30-2008, 12:12	#12
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 25,571	Hats what you get! __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

01-30-2008, 13:35	#13
Shipgate Brigadier General Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: August 2, 1011 Posts: 1,325	Neat! I gotta get me one of those. People often ask me when I wear my Eisen hat if I was in the Navy. __________________ The sum must be correct.

01-30-2008, 13:59	#14
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	When I was planning on picking up some of the CIC gear my dad said if I got that hat it may screw with someone in the Navy. "Which ship was THAT?" __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

01-30-2008, 19:23	#15
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	I was wearing the Eisen one and someone asked me if I served on a submarine. I told him it was a new type of carrier. Here's the jpeg image for the Princeton hat if anyone wants to use it at a local embroidery shop. Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2008, 09:01	#16
Drizzt Do Urden Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 443	Where did he order the hat? I want one too!

02-03-2008, 10:03	#17
Kevin Caccamo Major Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 509	Where did the princeton appear in WC4? __________________ AKA KC-1024/Talon 1024 \| Wing Commander Saga website \| Wing Commander Saga Forum \| The 158th Banshee Squadron website \| The 158th Banshee Squadron forum \| Project Leader: Wing Commander: Hostile Frontier \| WC: HF thread at HLP \| Learning to program in Java \| OBJ2WCP Released!

02-03-2008, 10:34	#18
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	It's the big carrier you can capture in Speradon.

02-03-2008, 10:50	#19
Kevin Caccamo Major Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 509	Hmmm... Kind of thought so. Do I have to destroy all it's turrets or do I just have to leech it? I had quite a hard time with that mission. __________________ AKA KC-1024/Talon 1024 \| Wing Commander Saga website \| Wing Commander Saga Forum \| The 158th Banshee Squadron website \| The 158th Banshee Squadron forum \| Project Leader: Wing Commander: Hostile Frontier \| WC: HF thread at HLP \| Learning to program in Java \| OBJ2WCP Released!

02-03-2008, 17:03	#20
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	Leeching doesn't do anything in this case. The standard procedure is to remove the turrets, pop the engines and damage it 50%.

04-08-2008, 06:48	#21
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	Well, I sort of ripped off the Concordia design and replaced the name with the Wellington, a Ranger class (I don't think anyone will notice ) Do any of you know a good site to make a hat like this? __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

04-08-2008, 06:56	#22
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 25,571	Yorktown class __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

04-08-2008, 07:55	#23
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	My bad. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

04-08-2008, 08:56	#24
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	Dear God, they raped me on those price quotes. The cheapest I found was for 35$. And that's just the machine, not the hat itself. McGruff, where you get yours on the Internet? Maybe I could just take that design with different text. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

04-08-2008, 19:27	#25
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	If you happen to find a quality embroidery site for projects like this, please let me know. I wasn't satisfied with the finished product I got when inspected closely. We should probably be asking LOAF where the Eisen hats were made, the stitching on them is far superior. I would be just fine paying $35 + the cost of a hat if it was going to be a quality job, sounds like a small price to pay for a unique Wing Commander item. Of course if several of us got together on this, the price per person would be much lower because setup is usually the biggest part of the cost. If one or more other people want to do it, I'm in.

04-08-2008, 19:53	#26
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	Hey, if we could set something up like that, it'd be great. Talk to you guys tomorrow, got to get ready for my SEAL test. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

04-08-2008, 21:30	#27
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	If there's anything I can do to help...........

04-14-2008, 17:49	#29
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	I see they have a minimum order quantity of 12 hats, at $17.75 each. If anyone else wants to go in with me, I'm good for the price of two of them.

05-04-2008, 16:02	#30
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	Nobody?

05-04-2008, 18:26	#31
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 10,988	If somebody designs something really cool and takes the time to work out the logistics, I'm in.

05-04-2008, 20:01	#32
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	I was thinking we should do the Princeton hat, or another documented Yorktown/Concordia class using Greekgear's superior embroidery if we can get some people to go in on it. I would volunteer to handle the actual order and to mail out the individual hats afterward. The price per person would be $17.75 + probably less than $2 shipping per person + maybe $5 each for me to mail them out. There doesn't seem to be a separate design setup charge that I see, so total cost per person would probably be around 25 bucks. I'm good for two, and if Chris gets one, we need to account for 9 more hats.

05-05-2008, 05:59	#33
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	As soon as there's an official design, I'm in. As for that may I humbly suggest (with a slight hint of fanboyism) using the Wellington? I've got a pic of a design around here somewhere... __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

05-05-2008, 06:47	#34
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 25,571	I would buy a well done canonical ship -- so, the Princeton but not the Wellington. I might suggest the Tarawa (CVE-7), as we could send one hat to Dr. Forstchen as a gift. __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

05-05-2008, 15:59	#35
Deadman_ny 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gloversville, New York Posts: 268	I'm down for a hat. Any pics of a runup? You take paypal? If not please send me mailing address for money order. The Tarawa would be cool to have on a hat. What are the base colors going to be for the hat and the embroidering? Is there a choice or just one color for entire order. My mother does stuff like that for birthdays, holidays and the gambit of grandmother things. Pictures of the kids on coffee mugs, bibs, T-shirts, ect. Think it's really cool and endearing.

05-05-2008, 16:27	#36
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	As long as we're still picking out a name, might as well be something we've flown off ourselves. So, Tiger's Claw. Concordia, Victory, Intrepid, Midway, or Cerberus. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

05-05-2008, 17:29	#38
Haliwali Captain Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Backwater, Tennessee Posts: 353	Navy would look better for a background I think. I think I have a better idea for collecting votes though. __________________ Congratulations, you've just had a near life experience. -Tyler Durden If I hadn't learned to laugh at myself, I'd be dead a long time ago. -Chris Griffin You wouldn't know up from down if it weren't for gravity!- Maniac

05-05-2008, 17:32	#39
McGruff Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,614	Black would look like a real one...... Attached Thumbnails