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Old 07-19-2008, 16:00   #1
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Technosaurs: Locked and Loaded (July 20, 2008)

Ready for action! Our equipment is packed for a short trip to the Origin Museum tonight - and then on to Mythic Entertainment tomorrow morning, where it will be used to archive a large collection of Origin and Wing Commander artifacts. What's on the manifest? A desktop, eight laptops, four tape drives, two SyQuest drives, five SCSI adapters, two VHS-to-DVD decks, a scanner, camera equipment, a CD resurfacer, computer tools, a DVD-ROM drive, hard drive enclosures, roughly five terabytes of storage, enough A/V, SCSI and power cables to strangle a Kilrathi and more! I took less stuff with me when I went away to college! We will do our best to keep you up-to-date as to our status as the week progresses. Wish us luck!




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Old 07-20-2008, 17:51   #2
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Strangle?...heck you could probably mummify a Kilrathi with all the power cords...

Seriously, awesome how locked and loaded you all are. (wait I just used the title there, weird)

Best of Luck guys...the community is all behind you
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note upper right hand corner of picture. I guess those would count as the human tools.
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they stuck up a youtube space for important discoveries over their Mythic journey. Do what I did, and bookmark this site for the duration, or subscribe if you have a youtube account.

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Wow, I was the first viewer of their test thing. Just a note, though, try to use the camera from a stable stationary position when ya'll record at Mythic. The blur is a little annoying. Volume was excellent and should be perfect for the size of room you will probably be in.

I eagerly await the first videos...btw are ya'll going to upload these throughout the day or only at night? Also will these be short progress-report style videos or longer stretches of recording while ya'll work?
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Old 07-21-2008, 02:00   #9
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Wow, I was the first viewer of their test thing. Just a note, though, try to use the camera from a stable stationary position when ya'll record at Mythic. The blur is a little annoying. Volume was excellent and should be perfect for the size of room you will probably be in.

I eagerly await the first videos...btw are ya'll going to upload these throughout the day or only at night? Also will these be short progress-report style videos or longer stretches of recording while ya'll work?
The blur was a combination of it being a cell phone in a fairly dark room. It should be much better in the daylight at Mythic. The reason we're using a cell phone is so that we can do these updates and automagically infoburst them straight to the internet throughout the day. We'll also be taking separate high definition videos of the event to archive/upload later.

Heading out in a couple minutes...
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Good luck guys, bring us some nice stuff !
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I hope that case of Stolichnaya is compatible with Linux...or LOAF!
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Old 07-21-2008, 07:01   #13
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Good luck guys! Can't wait to see what you find in there!
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I am definately eager to see what the finds are and hope to help in anyway possible. Those Youtube videos are cool....Keep up the great work
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:24   #15
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That's awesome, guys! So forgive me noobness or missing of the proper posts, but what were you doing at EA Mythic (well, actually just called Mythic, now) again? Getting a sneek peek of Warhammer Online?
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:34   #17
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Going through the remains of the Origin digital archives....finding treasures that may not have seen the light of day if not for the CIC command staff.

Can you say Privateer 3?
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Can you say Privateer 3?
That would explain the guide
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Have fun, and Loaf, can you do a Homer Simpson impression because you sound kinda similar... ;-)
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I like the Good morning video!!! pretty cool!!!
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I am really intrigued to see what you guys come up with, especially in the WCIV - WCSO range...
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So no mobile recordings, but what about the higher quality ones mentioned...also a no go I imagine?
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Old 07-21-2008, 21:57   #23
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There's an end-of-the-day report up now. Sounds like they can't really report from within the office but sounds like they found some great stuff.
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:54   #24
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Hey guys, thanks for the kind words. We're just getting up and getting ready to head out for Day Two right now.

We do have higher quality recordings and plenty of pictures of the process (Chris is here, after all), but we have to have them all approved by EA before we post them. There isn't actually anything classified going on, but it's their policy and we're more than happy to do it. Since we're trying to work as quickly as possible, that approval process will have to wait...

We happened to find the Privateer guide in a local computer junk shop the day before we left -- seemed like a reasonable good luck charm.

Here's where we are right now:

- We restored all of the SyQuest disks yesterday. It looks like they're mostly Wing Commander IV artwork (and some general artwork).

- We're about 30% done the CD-ROMs, which means we've done about 200 of them. Everything under the sun in here, including material from unreleased projects like Technosaur, Prowler and Privateer 3. I can't wait to actually start exploring the ISOs -- there will be something for everyone.

- We found more 3.5" disks than expected and have recovered some fun beta versions of things -- earlier releases of Ultima VIII, Pacific Strike, etc. We're about 25% of the way through that.

- Tapes aren't going as well, the Ultima stuff is proving difficult. We did recover a tape of Wing Commander textures successfully and have high hopes for the rest. There's another type of tape (DAT) which we don't have a reader for - but we will rectify that very soon.

- Chris is running a photography studio for all the artwork - he took so many pictures yesterday that his camera actually crashed. Really amazing and varied stuff there, everything from original sketches and cut-and-pastes laying out the 'Wingleader' box to the latest Ultima Online manual layouts.

- We found a mess of slides and luckily had a slide scanner... and then went out and bought a second one today. A lot of on set pictures from Wing Commander III and also the slides from things like employee awards presentations (Firefighter of the Year - Jorg Neumann).

- VHS tapes! Lots of footage from WC3, WC4, Prophecy and Privateer 2 as well as various errata (3D graphics presentations, Ultima commercials, store loops for things, etc.). We're about 40% through those now, thanks to a bank of three machines that turn VHSes into DVDs. Some of the footage is different than the finished game - we watched through an alternate cut of the WCIV intro earlier.
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That sounds really amazing!

Forget about Indiana Jones and Lara Croft - this is true archeology!!!
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That is absolutely awesome LOAF! Thanks to the whole team for putting so much effort into this. Can't wait to see what else you guys find. Good luck!
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Can't wait to see the artwork and scetches you found.
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There isn't actually anything classified going on, but it's their policy and we're more than happy to do it.
So gracious of EA to be so free in letting you folks in.

Absent though I might be in making regular posts, I am not absent in keeping up to speed on the news updates. Keep up the great work, everyone!
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~~~ on the number 13 video LOAF you looked and sounded beat ~~~ you guys must have been workin your butts off....congrats tho and I'm looking forward to some great and awesome material.
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Wow, looks like most of the stuff will be finished sometime Thursday...everything except for pictures and tape drives it seems.
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Wow, this must take a lot of heat off. Sounds like you'll have two updates worth of stuff a day for years to come!
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Wow nice work guys.... looks like aside from those difficult tape drives all that is left is the scanning and small number (100 or less I'm guessing) of CDs to finish.
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Alright guys....the task is finished...early...and with a resounding success on all files it seems.

So please relax, sleep, enjoy the weekend, get more sleep, and then go home....we can wait for the data....though don't take more than a month to start relaying some of the treasures ya'll found.
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I can only imagine....There's so much information it's making my brain goto my feet....Keep up the good work guys...
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Where have you guys been going? First the amazon then inside of a machine.
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Okay big question, what all can you release to the community...behind the document scans, footage, and pictures. I am really getting at the source codes for not only the canceled projects but also for released games like WC4 and U7?
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the bigger question is how long will it take to discover what all is stored within the aforementioned data. Keep in mind it took 5 days of constant effort just to get it all copied, they haven't even had a chance to find out what they have got yet. Patience will be fairly important.
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I am not asking what they have, but what they will be able to release....I seriously don't see EA being so kind as to allow the release of full or partial source codes esp. to released games.
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Hey guys,
We'll have an update in a few days -- we're all trying to catch up on our real lives after last week.

I'm betting that the first thing you'll see is a lot of source artwork -- and we'll go forward from there.
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Very cool. I was wonder what sort of rights you have to share this stuff, especially source code. Did they just give this data away, no questions asked?
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I can't wait to see what you peopl got there.

I just hope EA lets you release most of it.


I'm really interested in what Ultima stuff you got.
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I just hope EA lets you release most of it.
I'm probably making a huge, stupid assumption here. Why would a company let a group of outsiders come and make extensive copies of a large chunk of archived IP if it hadn't already been released? I'm pretty sure LOAF and Paul Barnett got all the permission they needed from EA before going through with this.
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I'm probably making a huge, stupid assumption here. Why would a company let a group of outsiders come and make extensive copies of a large chunk of archived IP if it hadn't already been released? I'm pretty sure LOAF and Paul Barnett got all the permission they needed from EA before going through with this.

Well, they said they need it approved first before showing it
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The last thing Paul Barnett asked us before he left for ComicCon was how long it was going to take to get this material online. We're going through the official process with EA, but the guys at the top are all in favor of you seeing this stuff ASAP.
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The last thing Paul Barnett asked us before he left for ComicCon was how long it was going to take to get this material online. We're going through the official process with EA, but the guys at the top are all in favor of you seeing this stuff ASAP.


wow, great then thanks for clearing that up
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There wouldn't happen to me any information on Ultima VIII: The Lost Vale would there, maybe a beta version of it, or even the never released full copy? Or maybe some older beta version of IX.

Just think of what is all hiding in there!
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There wouldn't happen to me any information on Ultima VIII: The Lost Vale would there, maybe a beta version of it, or even the never released full copy? Or maybe some older beta version of IX.

Just think of what is all hiding in there!
Exactly! They've already come accross bits from other unreleased stull (like the aforementioned Technosaur, and Privateer 3) but there's almost certainly others. But it's going to take a while before we really have a complete notion of what we have.
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How will be the restoration process be taking place: will just the staff restore all of these files or will you enlist others to help with the 'grunt' work?
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How will be the restoration process be taking place: will just the staff restore all of these files or will you enlist others to help with the 'grunt' work?
I guess it depends how things go. There's a lot of data. Not counting any video rips, it comes to about 470 gigabytes. There might be opportunities for sorting down the line, but we would need to work out some of the distribution questions first.

I can't even believe it's August. Since I've been away from this thread for two weeks, sorry again for not being able to post live updates from inside. Were we allowed to do so, it would have still be difficult because of the frantic activity. The process went from roughly 7 am to 7 pm nonstop each day, and even at the ends of the day sometimes we were in too much of a daze to beam out an infoburst. I did get a few high quality videos inside that capture our process and setup pretty well, so I'm anxious to be able to post those and share our experience some.
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I think we're finally ready to start answering some questions where possible. Here are some rough numbers on exactly what we managed to recover:

CD Images: 708
SyQuest Images: 25
Photographs: 3,390
3.5" Disks: 274
Optical Discs: 2
DAT Tapes: 36
8mm Tape Images: 1
Scans: 8,225
VHS Tapes: 101
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