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Old 06-28-2004, 19:03   #1
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The Flying Tigers: A Wing Commander RPG

This is an RPG that I propose to have set up on the Solsector.net boards:

Setting: The RPG is set in the Deneb sector in the year 2664, the year before the beginning of Wing Commander II. The prinicipal missions will begin in the Goddard system of Secret Missions one fame. Our principal mission involves safeguarding colony vessels in their attempt to rebuild Goddard from the ashes of the Sivar attack 10 years previous. The Kilrathi have launched a new offensive and it is up to the job of our pilots to support the 6th fleet as it defends the borders from the advancing Kilrathi.

Our vessel: The ship we are stationed on is the Waterloo class cruiser TCS Burma CA-28. While it is nowhere near as strong fighter wise as one of the 6th fleets carriers, such as the TCS Alliance CVS-66, one of the new Confederation class Dreadnoughts. However, the Burma makes up for its small fighter complement in its offensive shipboard power. The quad antimatter guns posses enough power to give even the new Fralthra class cruiser a run for its money. And the ship is relatively fast for a vessel of its size as well, allowing us to escape what we can't destroy.

Here are the full stats of our vessel

Vessel: TCS Burma
Class: Waterloo Heavy Cruiser
Registry: CA-28
Date Commenced: 2658.005 (January 5th, 2658)
Date Christened: 2658.324 (November 21st, 2658)
Date Commisioned: 2658.364 (December 30th, 2658)
Length: 503.9 meters
Mass: 19,500 metric tonnes
Max Velocity: 200 kps
Cruise Velocity 100 kps
Acceleration: 26 kps/s
Max Y/P/R 1/1/1 deg/s
Guns Flak Cannons (3), Anti-Matter Guns (4)
Front Shield: Phase Shields
Rear Shield: Phase Shields
Front Armor: 300 cm
Rear Armor: 300 cm
Right/Left Armor: 250 cm
Fighter Complement 40
Commanding Officer: Captain John Harris
Wing Commander: Major Joshua "Sylvester" Dworkin
Marine Detachment Commander: Captain (TCM) Anna Bueler
Crew: 430 (85 Officers,345 Crew) + 40 Pilots
Marine Detachment: 2 Companies: 360 Men

14th Naval Fighter Wing:

VF-52 (Flying Tigers):
Commander: Major Joshua "Sylvester" Dworkin
Fightercraft: 10 F-44G Rapier Class Medium Fighters

VF-29 (River Bandits):
Commander: TBA (Someone can volunteer for this)
Fightercraft: 10 F-44G Rapier Class Medium Fighters

VF-104 (Yellow Pythons)
Commander: TBA (Same as above)
Fightercraft: 5 P-64A Ferret Class Patrol Fighters, 5 F-54C Epee Class Light Fighters

VF-66 (Destroyers)
Commander: TBA (Same as above)
Fightercraft: 6 F-57C Sabre Heavy Fighters, 4 A-17D Broadsword Class Bombers

Auxillary Craft:
2 Hermes Class Shuttles
3 Jumpmaster Marine Assualt Shuttles

What the sim needs:

An XO to create storylines, manage the sim and recruit.
Pilots for any of the availible squadrons.
Naval Personnel for the ship
Marines

Note: If you want to play as the ships captain or as the marine commander, you may, and I'll subsitute you in instead of an NPC.

Good Hunting!
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Old 06-28-2004, 19:19   #2
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Yeah, we're about due for another WC RPG.
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Old 06-28-2004, 19:23   #3
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Old 06-28-2004, 19:55   #4
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Hey Sylvester, id like to sign up... i could be a wing commander... or a just a simple pilot if you already have those
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Old 06-28-2004, 20:13   #5
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Great Manaic II. Send a bio to joshtrekkie1@aol.com with a bio in the following format and the squadron you want to command.

Name: (F,L,MI)
Rank: (For you, it would be a Captain)
Date of Birth: (MM/DD/YYYY)
Place of Birth:
Age:
Race:
Height:
Weight:
Eye Color:
Hair Color:
Skin Color:
Distinguishing Marks:
Kills:
Decorations:
Decoration, Quantity, (Example, Gold Star, 2)
Academy Year: (YYYY)
Class Rank: (x out of total)

Career History:
Posting, Position, Year - Year (Example, TCS Ship, Pilot, 2644-2655)
(Repeat for multiple postings)

Promotion Histoy:
Rank, Year-Year (Example, 1LT, 2644-2655)

History: (3-5 Full paragraphs with details on your charachters life)

Also, do you have any simming experience. I'm looking for a sim XO that has simmed before. (Preferebly in Wing Commander, but not needed as long as you have a large knowledge of the WC2 universe)
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Old 06-29-2004, 04:37   #6
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Ignoring the nagging "oh, no, not again!" feeling...

Cruisers don't carry heavy strike craft, like the Broadsword or the bomber variant of the Sabre. That the Gettysburg had a partial squadron of Crossbows on it, in SO1, was due to it being used as a test base for the prototype Crossbows, not because they were part of a normal cruiser wing.

(Why they used a cruiser for a test center I don't know, though I suspect it's due to the metric buttload of cruisers available without too much interruption of the front lines, vs a few fleet carriers whose lack of presence would leave gaping holes in the Confed line.)
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:31   #7
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I agree. I think you should replace the Broadswords with more Sabres--the Broadsword is too large for a Waterloo's runway.
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:41   #8
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Marine Detachment: 2 Companies: 360 Men
That seems very, very large. What would a cruiser use so many marines for, anyway? Shoving 360 marines into a ship built for a crew of 500 (per Freedom Flight) for no reason other than that it sounds cool probably isn't reasonable.

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Fightercraft: 10 F-44G Rapier Class Medium Fighters
Fightercraft: 10 F-44G Rapier Class Medium Fighters
Fightercraft: 5 P-64A Ferret Class Patrol Fighters, 5 F-54C Epee Class Light Fighters
Fightercraft: 6 F-57C Sabre Heavy Fighters, 4 A-17D Broadsword Class Bombers
A cruiser isn't a carrier. The Gettysburg carried Epees and Ferrets (roughly a 2:1 ratio) because they're small, low maintenance fighters that can reasonably be carrier on a tiny cruiser. The larger, high performance fighters aren't going to be able to operate off of the cruisers.

(That certainly applies to both Rapiers and Sabres... but it goes double double double for the Broadsword. The Broadsword is over twice as massive as the Crossbow - and as has already been noted, the Crossbow was a special circumstance.)
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Old 06-29-2004, 11:10   #9
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You built a waterloo class cruiser in 359 days??

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Date Commenced: 2658.005 (January 5th, 2658)
Date Christened: 2658.324 (November 21st, 2658)
Date Commisioned: 2658.364 (December 30th, 2658)
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:46   #10
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cool any ways when will this be set up i want in!
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Old 06-29-2004, 13:06   #11
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I'd join, but I'm already part of another sim (X-Com related, hell Im the XO of it).

However, if you don't have sim times at saturday, and if in a few weeks I find college to not be too overwhelming, I just might give this a shot.
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Old 06-29-2004, 16:16   #12
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:12   #13
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Revamped fighter complement:

15 P-64A Ferrets
10 F-54C Epees
10 F-44F Rapiers
5 F-57B Sabres

Marine detachment reduced to one company: 130 men
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:40   #14
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You'd still be hard pressed to find any ship in which roughly a quarter of their total complement was marines, in RL or in WC. At most, you might find up to 20 marines, on a cruiser-sized ship, and even that's pushing it, considering that Waterloos also also have to have room for pilots and other flight-related personnel in addition to the crew for the ship itself, keeping numbers high enough to enable multiple watches (since a warship at sea/space is operating 24/7, not bank hours).

Also, given the carrier aspect, and that there's no provisions for landing craft or other assault-type ships, it's very unlikely there will be much in the way of boarding actions carried out by a Waterloo. The days of using grapples to pull a ship alongside to board it went out, for the most part, with the age of sailing ships.

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Further thought:

Marines wouldn't be needed too much to repel boarders, either. While boarding parties are a common theme in the novels, it's not quite as easy as they portray things, to capture a fully crewed cruiser or carrier.

(The Speradon carrier had only a skeleton crew, and in WC4N also had some Project personnel to make the boarding difficult.)
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:26   #15
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A single company of Marines would be pushing it Sylvester. I noticed in the WC novels and strategy guides that there are two types of Marine troopships, the tiny Drayman-transports that hold a single company of 150 Marines (said in WC1), then the larger massive assault troopships (from End Run) that carry a regiment (or MEU) of 2000 Marines and the ground equipment, tanks, vehicles, artillery, etc etc.

Incidentally, the Starship Troopers novel also makes a distinction between these two ship types as well, with their point of view that the Mobile Infantry prefers the smaller speedy corvette-transports for mobility and flexibility, and that the Navy point of view was to just stick them in the biggest troopships possible.

So my point: a company of Marines would make that ship more of a troop transport then a cruiser, (and you are adding that 40 plane complement as well right?).
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Okay, reduced to twenty marines, mainly for ship police duty (MP's) and to assist should the cruiser ever be boarded.
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Reading that quick thought about landing marines brought up a thought on my end. A cruiser would need utility craft anyway, just to transport staff, personnel, supplies, etc around while in space. I think the TCS Juneau, the Tallahassee cruiser from FC, had 4 'new' (at the wars end anyway) shuttles IIRC.
Though shuttles would primarily be used as utility craft, they also give you the option of transporting marines to planetary surfaces, destroyed ships for salvage/recon work, etc. While only 20 Marines are onboard, they still have a few duties they could perform. Having a few jarheads on board with nothing to do but be MP's and train to repel a boarding party which may never come is just asking to have problems. They are Marines, not rent a cops.

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My Bio, which can be used as a template for anyone who wants to apply. Note how much experience you have in the WC universe and simming in your email. I will be assigning people to squadron command positions with the rank of Captain. Everyone else will be a first lieutenant or a second lieutenant. Bios should be submitted to joshtrekkie1@aol.com


Name: Dworkin, Joshua C.L.
Rank: Major (O-4)
Callsign: Sylvester
DOB: October 12th, 2633 (2633.286)
Place of Birth: Oceanside, New York, Earth (Sol III)
Age: 31
Race: Terran
Height: 6’1"
Weight:174 lbs
Eye Color: Light Brown
Hair Color: Auburn
Skin Color: Light Tan
Distinguishing Marks:
Kills: 108
Decorations: T.C.M.V. (Pewter Planet), Bronze Star, Silver Star, Gold Star, Purple Heart, Distinguished Service Cross, Golden Sun
Quantity of Decorations: 1 Pewter Planet, 2 Bronze Star, 2 Silver Star, 2 Gold Star, 1 Purple Heart, 1 D.S.C., 1 Golden Sun
Academy Year: 2651-2655
Class Rank: 13 of 383
Past Posts: TCS Kipling (CV-08), Pilot, 2655-2657
TCS Verdun (CV-03), Pilot, 2657-2660
TCS Valley Forge (CVL-53), Squadron Commander, 2660-2663
Akko Station (SB-21), Wing Commander, 2663-2664
TCS Burma (CA-26), Wing Commander, 2664 - Present
Promotions: 2LT 2655-2657
1LT 2657-2660
CPT 2660-2663
MAJ 2663-Pres.

Character History
Dworkin was born in the seaside town of Oceanside, New York on the twelfth of October, 2633 along with his brother Nicolas. His father, Paul, was a Lieutenant Commander in the Terran Confederation Navy and served as the operations officer on the newly commissioned TCS Concordia (CV-1). His mother was an anthropologist who was stationed on the Goddard Colony on the fringes of the Deneb sector, but she attempted to return to Earth to see Josh and his brother Nicolas as often as she could. His father was onboard the Concordia during the Kilrathi attack on McAullife and its space station Alexandria during the opening battle of the war. Concordia was severely damaged by multiple torpedo hits and Paul Dworkin was injured but still managed to reach an escape pod before the Concordia exploded. After spending four weeks in a recovery ward to rebuild burned tissue, he returned to Earth with the express purpose of grooming his two sons to be officers in the Confederation Navy.
Both brothers went to high school simultaneously and participated in the same courses and activities. It was a true statement that you could of switched either brother with the other and they would have no problems what so ever. Josh and Nicolas, or Nico as he is called, received exemplary grades in high school and when Josh graduated sixth in his class in high school and Nicolas graduated seventh, it really made no difference to the two as the difference in their GPA’s was less than one percent. After graduating, the two applied to the Terran Confederation Space Force Academy. They were accepted into the class of 2655 and were accepted into the pilot training program to become aviators, much to their fathers chagrin, as he would of rather seen them become fleet Naval Officers, but he was pleased nonetheless as they had achieved the goal he had hoped for. Unfortunately, tragedy struck the family in the middle of Josh’s senior year. There mother, Lauren, had been on Goddard when the Sivar Dreadnought destroyed the colony in late November 2654. Their grades began to falter slightly and Paul Dworkin took an administrative post at the academy to help his sons cope with the loss. Even though the event had crippled their family, the two brothers graduated with honors in their class, with ranks of 13 and 14 out of the class total of 383.
Graduation brought a new experience for Dworkin, separation from his brother Nicolas, who had been assigned to the light carrier TCS Wellington (CVL-41) based in the Vega Sector. Josh was going to the Strike Carrier TCS Kipling (CV-08), which operated in the Enigma Sector. He was very pleased with his assignment to the Kipling his brothers absence notwithstanding. There is one special note in his file that Josh was the last person to fly the F-32 Scimitar medium fighter before it was retired. He racked up 26 kills in his three years on the carrier and was promoted to 1st Lieutenant in mid 2656, his second year on ship. After completing his tour of duty, he was transferred to the Concordia class carrier TCS Verdun (CV-03) and was the executive officer of one of the new Rapier squadrons aboard ship, receiving another twenty confirmed kills in two and a half years.
After completing his second tour of duty in 2660, he was promoted to Captain and transferred yet again to the Ranger class carrier TCS Valley Forge (CVL-53) where he became one of the squadron commanders. In this role he excelled and his squadron had one of the highest kills per pilot ratio in the entire 6th fleet. Another forty six kills confirmed that he was not losing his edge as he became older, in fact, his skills seemed to be improving. In 2663, after four years on the old carrier, he was selected to take command of its fighter wing and was to be promoted to Major. However, this never came to fruition. The Valley Forge was attacking an Kilrathi outpost in the Torgo sector when it was ambushed by two Fralthra class cruisers and their escorts. The defensive task group around the carrier was overwhelmed. Even though the fighters managed to destroy three of the seven attacking vessels, they managed to get through the defensive line and destroy the entire task group, as well as the Valley Forge. The remaining pilots managed to land on the carrier TCS Hermes (CV-33) which arrived too late to rescue the fleet.
Dworkin’s promotion was put on hold pending full investigation of the ships loss. While this took place, he took the wing commander’s position on Akko Station in the Deneb sector, managing to earn another sixteen victories on the backwater outpost. When the commission cleared him of guilt in the Valley Forge’s loss in early 2664, he was finally promoted to Major and requested a transfer as wing commander of the Waterloo cruiser TCS Burma (CA-26), which was approved.
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Captain Malcolm Fosters bio (Whats your callsign?) who will be a squadron commander.

Name: Foster, Malcolm J.
Rank: Captain (O-3)
Callsign: Hellfire
DOB: June 2, 2636 (2636.182)
Place of Birth: South Hampton, England Sol III
Age: 28
Race: Terran
Height: 6’0"
Weight:156 lbs
Eye Color: Ice Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Skin Color: Light tan
Distinguishing Marks: None visible with uniform on, but a scar across his back (See Char. His)
Kills: 66
Decorations: Bronze Star, Silver Star, Gold Star, Purple Heart, Campaign Ribbons
Quantity of Decorations: 3 Bronze Star, 1 Silver Star, 2 Gold Star, 1 Purple Heart
Academy Year: 2654-2658
Class Rank: 13 of 364
Past Posts: TCS Andromache (CL-185) Pilot 2658-2660
TCS Concordia (CVS-65) Pilot 2660-2664
Promotions: 2LT 2658-2659
1LT 2659-2663
Cap 2663-Present

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Born in South Hampton, England Sol III. Father was an officer in the TCN, and mother was a businesswoman. He has two siblings one brother and a sister. His brother is deceased. He never got close with his sister. Up until Malcolm was 10 years old he had spent his life traveling around the world with his mother and siblings, through this course he was educated at many schools. His father had only been a minor role in his life, showing up every now and then for short periods of time, but his father was injured saving 3 crewmen from an exploding conduit. He was a hero, but at a great cost, he lost a leg, and the other one was paralyzed. Malcolm immediately became close with his father. And with endless stories of courage, duty, and honor his father sparked an interest in the military in Malcolm. Another Major role was his brother, Michael Foster. His brother was a year older than him and they competed over everything.
Malcolm and Michael were both very athletic, and always competed to see who could make better grades in school. Michael graduated from high school with a GPA of 3.98, and was accepted into the Space Force Academy. Malcolm followed close in his footsteps and got into the Space Force Academy (but with a GPA of 3.95, which Michael never let him forget). Michael graduated 18 of 382 in his class, and a year later Malcolm graduated 13 of 364, which started endless debates as to who graduated better. In flight School Malcolm proved himself to be an exceptional pilot very earlier on, but his training officers found his reckless style as a cause for great grief and worry. Malcolm’s first ship as a pilot was the TCS Andromache, a light cruiser. He wasn’t too particularly impressed with this post and quickly put in to be reassigned, he never expected what happened next. He was reassigned to the TCS Concordia. He loved the Concordia and quickly bonded with his fellow pilots. During this time was when he made most of his kills, and earned most of his medals. During his service on the Concordia, however, he was in the middle of a fight between two crewmen trying to break it up, when one pulled out a knife. Malcolm was able to disarm him, but only after receiving a huge gash from shoulder blade to shoulder blade on his back. An investigation was done on the fight, and he was dismissed, but it did seem to be the only obvious reason for him being stuck a first lieutenant for four years.
During those four years though another event happened. Tragedy struck him and his family. While on patrol his brother Captain Michael "Firebird" Foster engaged an enemy that out numbered him 6 to 1, rather than report it. Him and his wingman were both killed in action. Malcolm knew this was the result of his brother’s recklessness, and caused him to rethink his style of flying. From then on he was just as ferocious, but quite a bit less reckless than he used to be. He finally was promoted to Captain, and put in a request for a new transfer, knowing that although he loved his post, in his current post he would never make any kind of command, which is something he had always wanted, his own squadron. Now he is awaiting a response to his request, hoping for a command post.
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I thought they never rebuilt Goddard colony, just the transit station in orbit.
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Goddard was a major scientific resource and even though the colony was destroyed, certainly the whole planet wasn't, and many of the scientific areas and the tree reserves probably still existed. It seems logical to rebuild it.
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So sylvester, which squadron will i have, and what do the squadrons look like with the revamped fighter compliment?
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Old 06-30-2004, 18:48   #25
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I'm assigning you to VF-66, the Destroyers

The fighter complement for that squadron is:
5 F-44G Rapier Class Mediums
5 F-57B Sabre Class Heavies

Final Total Fighter Complement:
15 Rapiers
15 Ferrets
5 Epees
5 Sabres
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Alright, good news. so now all we need is like two more squadron commanders, a bunch of pilots, some navy personel and marines, right?
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yeah... i hope this doesnt cause some punishment... but i was wondering how long i could go before someone caught me... sorry
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I edited this slightly Mike, as you shoudn't be older than Captain Foster and that you shoudn't have that many capital ship kills within one week, but your kill total remains unchanged.

But otherwise:1st Lieutenant Micheal J. Powell's bio

Name: Powell Mike J
Rank: 1st Lieutenant (O-2)
Callsign: Katana
DOB: September 30th, 2636 (2635.275)
Place of Birth: London, England, Earth (Sol III)
Age: 28
Race: Terran
Height: 6'0"
Weight:140 lbs
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Light Brown
Skin Color: Light Tan
Distinguishing Marks: None
Kills: 44
Decorations: 1 Distinguished Flying Cross, 1 Silver star
Academy Year: 2654-2658
Class Rank: 19 of 383
Past Posts: TCS Victory (CVL-40) Pilot, 2660-2663
Promotions: 2LT 2660-2663
1LT 2663-pres.

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Born in the Borough of Lambeth on 2636.275 to a family of Fighter Pilots he was showered with tales of combat. His father a Wilcat Ace with 142 kills taught him to fly atmospheric craft. At age 16 he got his pilots licence and began to fly for recreation. He joined the Academy at age 18 and exelled in tactics and piloting. He managed to crash a Scimitar in a training exerisce and was reprimanded. Soon he developed a hatred for Scimitars. After failing fighter classes he found true love with the F/A-17 Raptor. After he certified with the Raptor he quickly excelled in all ship based classes. When on Holiday in france he met the girl of his dreams and the got married in 2653. One year later he graduated as the 19th in his class with 1 reprimand for the lost Scimitar.

As soon as he graduated he was assigned to VB-40 on the TCS Victory. As second Lt. Powell flew several missions in the Raptor before getting his first kill. His flight was ambushed by a Ralari and 4 Krants. He lost his squad leader and attacked the group head on. He ordered his flight to attack the fighters while he attacked the Ralari. Due to skilful use of his single mine and his missiles he quickly dispached the Destroyer. After that he got 2 Krants and 3 Salthi. He became ace in a day. On one sortie, he managed to destroy 2 Spikeri Corvettes and a Fralthi. Not long after he began flying the F/A-57 Sabre. He racked 5 Dorkir Transports in a week bringing his toatal score board to 44. Soon After that he was transferred to the TCS Burma CA-26 as a senior pilot in the Flying Tiger's squadron.


And on another note: Keep them bio's coming, the more the merrier!
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Hey thanks! by the way when are we gonna get this goin! it was fun makin my bio
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well powell, its just you me, and sylvester so far...of course i have seen sims fill up overnight, so who knows?
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Hey Sylvester, mind if I try out the role as Commanding Officer?
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The decorations you list for the first two characters are a little very overblown. Here you have a character who's apparently earned the Wing Commander equivalent of the Medal of Honor (and enough other metal to sustain a neutron blast)... and yet his bio mentions nothing about any of it.

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Concordia was scuttled, for all intents and purposes (several hours after the battle) - you don't need a dramatic escape to get off the ship.

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After graduating, the two applied to the Terran Confederation Space Force Academy. They were accepted into the class of 2655 and were accepted into the pilot training program to become aviators, much to their fathers chagrin, as he would of rather seen them become fleet Naval Officers, but he was pleased nonetheless as they had achieved the goal he had hoped for.
This doesn't seem possible - Oceanside, New York isn't going to get two slots at a military academy.

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The Concordia didn't enter service until 2661.

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no, why is that were he's from... actually i picked that city because its were my fathers from
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> Final Total Fighter Complement:
> 15 Rapiers
> 15 Ferrets
> 5 Epees
> 5 Sabres

still seems a rather large fighter compliment for a cruiser..

but that's just my $0.02..

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For all intensive purposes, I'm going to call it a wing commander. This doesn't need to be exactly canon, just enough so nothing is incredibly blown out of proportion. That is actually not my completed bio, the final one will detail how I won those medals.

Remember, this is an RPG. The main objective is to have fun with things like attention to canon second. In the real universe, yes, that would be a bit much for a Waterloo's fighter complement. But most people prefer the Rapier and they would have more fun flying that ship. Its just a little creative liscense, not like I;m creating anything new.

Maniac II: Change the service to 2661-2664 on the Concordia.

And regarding slots, at least in the modern day, the slots aren't decided by town to get into a military academy. (I know, I'm training to get into Annapolis). You have to get a recommindation from either a congressman, a senator, the vice president or either the president himself. Besides, at least in Wing Commander, Earth itself would have plenty of spots as it is the capital of the Confederation.

About Concordia CV-1: I'll change that around a bit.....

And one more thing. You mention in the encyclopedia that Blair was born on Nephele. Yet in WC2 SO1, when Stingray asks him where he's going on leave, Blair says. "Just back to Earth, its been a long time since I've been home". So where is he from originally, Earth or Nephele?

And last: Sure Grimloc, send me a bio in the same way, except kills aren't required since you are a ships Captain and just send it along to my email:
joshtrekkie1@aol.com

EDIT: Also, everyone send me a revised bio with how you recieved your decorations.
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Your going to the Academy? thats cool... im going to take the easy rout and go AOCS in Peniscola... i'll still be a pilot after all...

And i thought if you get congressman its two required and president/vice president if you can get one from either one that is all you need.

Btw... about the Concordia... i cant change it because its your post... but i will note the change
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Name: Dworkin, Joshua C.L.
Rank: Major (O-4)
DOB: October 12th, 2633 (2633.286)
Place of Birth: Oceanside, New York, Earth (Sol III)
Age: 31
Race: Terran
Height: 6’1"
Weight:174 lbs
Eye Color: Light Brown
Hair Color: Auburn
Skin Color: Light Tan
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Kills: 108
Decorations: T.C.M.V. (Pewter Planet), Bronze Star, Silver Star, Gold Star, Purple Heart, Distinguished Service Cross, Golden Sun
Quantity of Decorations: 1 Pewter Planet, 2 Bronze Star, 2 Silver Star, 1 Gold Star, 1 Purple Heart, 1 D.S.C., 1 Golden Sun
Academy Year: 2651-2655
Class Rank: 6 of 383
Past Posts: TCS Kipling (CV-08), Pilot, 2655-2657
TCS Verdun (CV-03), Pilot, 2657-2660
TCS Valley Forge (CVL-53), Squadron Commander, 2660-2663
Akko Station (SB-21), Wing Commander, 2663-2664
TCS Burma (CA-26), Wing Commander, 2664 - Present
Promotions: 2LT 2655-2657
1LT 2657-2660
CPT 2660-2664
MAJ 2664-Pres.

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Dworkin was born in the seaside town of Oceanside, New York on the twelfth of October, 2633 along with his brother Nicolas. His father, Paul, was a Lieutenant Commander in the Terran Confederation Navy and served as the operations officer on the newly commissioned TCS Concordia (CV-1). His mother was an anthropologist who was stationed on the Goddard Colony on the fringes of the Deneb sector, but she attempted to return to Earth to see Josh and his brother Nicolas as often as she could. His father was onboard the Concordia during the Kilrathi attack on McAullife and its space station Alexandria during the opening battle of the war. Concordia was severely damaged by multiple torpedo hits and Paul Dworkin was severely burned but was fit enough to assist in the evacuation and was on an escape pod when the ship was scuttled two hours after the battle. After spending four weeks in a recovery ward to rebuild burned tissue, he returned to Earth with the express purpose of grooming his two sons to be officers in the Confederation Navy.
Both brothers went to high school simultaneously and participated in the same courses and activities. It was a true statement that you could of switched either brother with the other and they would have no problems what so ever. Josh and Nicolas, or Nico as he is called, received exemplary grades in high school and when Josh graduated sixth in his class in high school and Nicolas graduated seventh, it really made no difference to the two as the difference in their GPA’s was less than one percent. After graduating, the two applied to the Terran Confederation Space Force Academy. They were accepted into the class of 2655 and were accepted into the pilot training program to become aviators, much to their fathers chagrin, as he would of rather seen them become fleet Naval Officers, but he was pleased nonetheless as they had achieved the goal he had hoped for. Unfortunately, tragedy struck the family in the middle of Josh’s senior year. There mother, Lauren, had been on Goddard when the Sivar Dreadnought destroyed the colony in late November 2654. Their grades began to falter slightly and Paul Dworkin took an administrative post at the academy to help his sons cope with the loss. Even though the event had crippled their family, the two brothers graduated with honors in their class, with ranks of 13 and 14 out of the class total of 383.
Graduation brought a new experience for Dworkin, separation from his brother Nicolas, who had been assigned to the light carrier TCS Wellington (CVL-41) based in the Vega Sector. Josh was going to the Strike Carrier TCS Kipling (CV-08), which operated in the Enigma Sector. He was very pleased with his assignment to the Kipling his brothers absence notwithstanding. There is one special note in his file that Josh was the last person to fly the F-32 Scimitar medium fighter before it was retired. He racked up 26 kills in his three years on the carrier and was promoted to 1st Lieutenant in mid 2656, his second year on ship. He received the silver star for participating in the squadron that destroyed a Kilrathi carrier in 2656, getting three kills on the mission. He was awarded the Gold Star and the Golden Sun on the same mission. His flight was guarding bombers that were launching an attack on a Ralatha class destroyer. They were ambushed by a wing of Jalthi enroute. Josh managed to kill four of them before they plugged his fighter and he was forced to eject. He was later cleared of all guilt in the incident and returned to flight status a week later as well as being awarded the Purple Heart for being injured when he ejected.. After completing his tour of duty, he was transferred to the Concordia class carrier TCS Verdun (CV-03) and was the executive officer of one of the new Rapier squadrons aboard ship, receiving another twenty confirmed kills in two and a half years. On the Verdun, he continued to distinguish himself in combat, earning the Distinguished Service Cross for leading a squadron that attacked and destroyed a Kilrathi Fralthi class cruiser in the face of 3-1 odds against them. He also received the Bronze star along with his wingleader when the two escaped Kilrathi pursuit to deliver a vital comm packet to the 6th fleet base in Deneb.
After completing his second tour of duty in 2660, he was promoted to Captain and transferred yet again to the Ranger class carrier TCS Valley Forge (CVL-53) where he became one of the squadron commanders. In this role he excelled and his squadron had one of the highest kills per pilot ratio in the entire 6th fleet. Another forty six kills confirmed that he was not losing
his edge as he became older, in fact, his skills seemed to be improving. He earned another Bronze Star along with his wingman for safeguarding a convoy against six Drakhai fighters. In 2663, after four years on the old carrier, he was selected to take command of its fighter wing and was to be promoted to Major. However, this never came to fruition. The Valley Forge was attacking an Kilrathi outpost in the Torgo sector when it was ambushed by two Fralthra class cruisers and their escorts. The defensive task group around the carrier was overwhelmed. Even though the fighters managed to destroy three of the seven attacking vessels, the Kilrathi managed to get through the defensive line and destroy the entire task group, as well as the Valley Forge. The remaining pilots managed to land on the carrier TCS Hermes (CV-33) which arrived too late to rescue the fleet. Dworkin was subsequently awarded the Terran Confederation Medal of Valor for shooting down five Kilrathi fighters and placing his fighter in the way of a missile that was targeted on one of the Valley Forge’s escape pods.
Dworkin’s promotion was put on hold pending full investigation of the ships loss. While this took place, he took the wing commander’s position on Akko Station in the Deneb sector, managing to earn another sixteen victories on the backwater outpost. He was awarded one more Silver Star when the fighters of the station successfully defended the crippled TCS Mayweather (DD-652) as it tried to reach Akko with two squadrons of Grikath on its tail. When the commission cleared him of guilt in the Valley Forge’s loss in late 2663, he was finally promoted to Major and requested a transfer as wing commander of the Waterloo cruiser TCS Burma (CA-26), which was approved.
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> Final Total Fighter Complement:
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> 5 Epees
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still seems a rather large fighter compliment for a cruiser..

but that's just my $0.02..

-J
Well, while the actual total count is in line with KS manual stats, the problem with them is that the Sabre bomber variant is still larger, IIRC, than the other 3 fighters, and also requires more support resources (technicians and parts), due to the multirole nature of the Sabre bomber variant.

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm encouraging this, by the way, given past history.
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It's Southampton, not South Hampton.
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2nd Lieutenant Anthony "Ginge" Wale's bio:

Name: Wale, Anthony
Rank: 2nd Lieutenant (O-1)
Callsign: Ginge
DOB: September 26th, 2642 (2642.269)
Place of Birth: London, England, Earth (Sol III)
Age: 22
Race: Terran
Height: 6’1"
Weight:167 lbs
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Ginger
Skin Color: White
Distinguishing Marks: Small scars from Nasty Ejection
Kills: 0
Decorations: Golden Sun
Quantity of Decorations: 1 Golden Sun
Academy Year: 2659-2663
Class Rank: 2 of 265
Past Posts: TCS Burma (CA-26), Pilot, 2664-
Promotions: 2LT, 2664-


History: Born in London on the 26th September 2644. His father was first lieutenant James
"Blindside" Wale, who served a call of duty on the TCS Trafalger (2650-2654). He was later promoted to Captain and was killed when the Trafalgar was destroyed in an Kilrathi ambush in 2654. Before being killed, he was awarded the bronze star for bravery in search and rescue of comrade which Anthony still posses.
His mother, who worked in an office on Earth, never remarried after James Wale’s death

Noted as a silent and hard worker while he was in high school, he was recommended for flight training at the Terran Confederation Naval Academy. His grades were exemplary and only one major incident occurred while he was at flight school; he was forced to eject from a Hornet Trainer when its engine exploded during an afterburner test. He has some minor injuries across his chest from the incident but returned to full flight status short thereafter and was awarded the Golden Sun as is custom when a pilot survives his first ejection. His instructors noted that he was cool headed and logical in the cockpit, not seen in many new cadets and that he possessed exceptional flying skill. He graduated second in his class in the academy in late 2663 and was posted to the Waterloo class cruiser TCS Burma CA-26.

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Captain Malcolm "Hellfire" Foster
1st Lieutenant Micheal "Katana" Powell
2nd Lieutenant Anthony "Ginge" Wale

as well as one person who is currently writing a bio to send me and two people that powell has contacted that would like to join up which makes seven simmers in total thus far.

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but that's just my $0.02..
Nah, he's within his rights there. The Kilrathi Saga manual establishes a fighter complement of 40 on the Gilgamesh-class in order to cover all of the fighters from the TCS Gettysburg you shoot down in Special Ops 1. (The bible you sent me does a better job of explaining the same issue, claiming that there are cruiser and carrier-conversion versions of the Gilgamesh... I'm not sure why the Kilrathi Saga manual writers didn't go with this. The idea that there are Gilgamesh carriers actually gets referenced in End Run, though not clearly enough to be of any use here.)

(In this case, though, Sabres and Rapiers aren't Epees and Ferrets. It's like assuming that because a modern day AEGIS destroyer can carry a pair of helicopters that it can carry a pair of F/A-18s...)

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The phrase is 'intents and purposes', not 'intensive purposes'.

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Remember, this is an RPG. The main objective is to have fun with things like attention to canon second. In the real universe, yes, that would be a bit much for a Waterloo's fighter complement. But most people prefer the Rapier and they would have more fun flying that ship. Its just a little creative liscense, not like I;m creating anything new.
That's not much of a defense - RPGs require a strict set of rules... and adhering to a fairly forgiving set of pre-existing facts isn't a very difficult thing to do.

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And regarding slots, at least in the modern day, the slots aren't decided by town to get into a military academy. (I know, I'm training to get into Annapolis). You have to get a recommindation from either a congressman, a senator, the vice president or either the president himself. Besides, at least in Wing Commander, Earth itself would have plenty of spots as it is the capital of the Confederation.
You've got an Academy with 1,200 slots for a Confederation made up of 700+ star systems. We know that many star systems get to nominate a single person (per the WCP Official Guide)... the odds are stacked very, very highly against twin brothers from Oceanside, New York attending the same academy together.

(On a greater level, you're group is suffering from 'Academy syndrome' - the vast, vast, vast majority of pilots in the Wing Commander universe are going to be normal people who went through OCS. Particularly on a less important posting like a cruiser. You're clearly trying to write realistic/comprehensive bios - so lets see some where the character isn't superman.)

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And one more thing. You mention in the encyclopedia that Blair was born on Nephele. Yet in WC2 SO1, when Stingray asks him where he's going on leave, Blair says. "Just back to Earth, its been a long time since I've been home". So where is he from originally, Earth or Nephele?
He was born on Nephele. He grew up on Earth after his parents deaths - any family he has left is there (not that he was actually going to Earth in SO1...). (I didn't do anything with the encyclopedia, though.)

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Worth noting that the canon designation is CF-105.
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. . . complement of 40 on the Gilgamesh-class . . . carrier-conversion versions of the Gilgamesh... there are Gilgamesh carriers . . .
I'll do the anal clarifyingthing . . . don't you mean Waterloo?

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Old 07-02-2004, 08:00   #46
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Sorry, yes, I do mean Waterloo.
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Old 07-03-2004, 06:37   #47
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(In this case, though, Sabres and Rapiers aren't Epees and Ferrets. It's like assuming that because a modern day AEGIS destroyer can carry a pair of helicopters that it can carry a pair of F/A-18s...)
The only reason i will nit pick about this is because its where my father is currently assigned... AEGIS is a cruiser, not a destroyer...

Note: Sorry Hades... Thanks for correcting me... and sorry, hope I didnt cause any offense...
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Old 07-03-2004, 08:06   #48
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Well, nowadays, there are both AEGIS cruisers and destroyers. There's the Ticonderoga class CG (Missile Cruiser), and the more modern Arleigh Burke class DDG (Missile Destroyer), both of which pack AEGIS.
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Old 07-03-2004, 08:32   #49
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The only reason i will nit pick about this is because its where my father is currently assigned... AEGIS is a cruiser, not a destroyer...

Note: Sorry Hades... Thanks for correcting me... and sorry, hope I didnt cause any offense...
Just to step in, the DDG-51 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers are probably the most famous ships (currently) for carrying AEGIS systems and two helicopters. The original ships to mount the AEGIS systems are, as you've pointed out, the CG-47 Ticonderoga-class cruisers, which also carry two Sea Hawk helicopters. However, they were originally designated as DDGs, before the designation was changed to guided missile cruiser.
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Old 07-03-2004, 09:36   #50
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I saw the HMS Invincible last year, It's small compaired to our Nimitz Class or even the Old Essex class
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